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An Open Letter to Kapil Sibal — Union Minister for Human Resource Degradation


Dear Mr. Kapil “I-shall-destroy-IITs” Sibal,

I have many questions going through my mind. But let’s start with this one, what exactly are the functions that fall under the regime of HRD (Human Resource Department — is it, still??). Is it just education? And in that too, just IITs? Or do you presume that in India, education means just the IITs? If not, please explain this obsession of your ministry with the IITs, tenure after tenure. First it was, what’s-his-name… Arjun Singh… and now you. Just because our PM is a man of “integrity and honesty” (which, somehow implies he shouldn’t speak, come what may!!), doesn’t mean you should take advantage.

A thoughtful mind

Now, what’s with this mentality of “not trying to improve things that don’t work, rather solving all your problems using the only things that work.” The one working thing in your case are the IITs — and you tamper with only them to do each and everything, be it inclusive social upliftment (reservations), lack of good doctors in India (medicine at IITs), education to the politicians’ children with double-digit IQ levels (Show as much maturity as your white hair suggests, Mr Sibal — and you’ll find how easy it is for such people to get a fake board certificate with whatever–marks–on–demand, despite the fact that they would never in their wildest dreams, even in the fourth level of Nolan’s Inception, be able to ace JEE exam), reducing the stress level in 12th (Stress levels? If you can’t take the board exam stress, don’t get into IITs in the first place — simple! Now, if you think the nation can function without someone taking the stress, aha! — we sure are looking at a superpower nation soon). 

I am sure soon you must be having plans to solve pollution, poverty, population and corruption problems and your IQ problems as well through IITs.


If the engineering + medical coachings
were not enough, now let’s have
engineering + medical institutes of
“technology”

Now coming back to the point, you talk about including the 12th class scores for IIT entrance. In case you don’t know, here is a news flash for you, India has around 25 state boards, plus the CBSE and ICSE. For a Tamil Nadu student, the highest marks can be 99.8%, while in Uttar Pradesh, it hardly touches 90%. Also, CBSE is a high-scoring board. I wish you all the best in your attempt to normalise these — to bring them at par. I suggest you give the task to the folks who conducted the online CAT last year. They are well-equipped and experienced in dealing with the guilt of messing with lakhs of aspirants anyway.


Also you have suggested introducing medical education into the IITs. I wonder if it is your way of bringing all colleges at par. Good one though, it’s always easier and cheaper to degrade the level of a couple of IITs (jugaad, we call it), than to raise that of a gazillion things with crumbling buildings, barely graduate faculties and with lavatories with a single microscope functioning as laboratories. Or, maybe out of pity on the IIT students, to give them some action by the on-campus presence of female medical students. In that case, a big THANK YOU on behalf of all my juniors. They eagerly await the arrival of medical batch. Some worried souls in the final year who might be passing out in 2011 are seriously considering getting a degree extension in case you postpone the implementation to 2012. Please don’t postpone it to after 2012 — Daruwalla tells me the world is gonna end in 2012 anyway — your education ministry hasn’t taught us not to believe him.

Whatever the reason, if we needed someone just to tell us superficial ideas read off from American university brochures, we could have made any Tom, Dick and Harry or Shivraj Patil our HRD Minister. Why did we pick a Harvard graduate? And how credible does your degree sound if you can’t understand that whatever works in US might not work in India in that exact same format.

I haven’t seen you in any corruption charges either. I wonder why you’re still stuck around in politics?! With that Harvard Law degree, you could be making good money out there. At the worst, you would be letting some criminals escape; at the least you would not be screwing an entire upcoming generation of India. I read somewhere that you cleared the IAS exam and didn’t join later, I admired your guts back then — but now I so wish you had joined, you could have been an ambassador to some country like Nepal (is it a state of India already or still independent country?) or Afghanistan or some babu looking after the CWG games etc, at least sparing India’s future from your wrath.

This man’s maid will teach you
how to pull off cleverer publicity stunts

They say Youth Power is India’s greatest power. I say — let Kapil Sibal be done and we’ll talk. If publicity is the only reason you are doing all this, I would be ashamed of your dumbness and say Rakhi Sawant and Shiney Ahuja’s maid have better publicity strategies. Go into Bigg Boss for God’s sake! They are casting mentally imbalanced people anyway and I am sure that if Vindu Dara Singh and Rahul Mahajan can get in, you sure will. People will vote for anything, didn’t we elect you already?


As much as I would hate to burst your bubble and be responsible for another psychiatrist losing a potential client, let me tell you, that a brand name (IITs or something else) is not the entire story. Good students and the faculty make an institution what it is. Now with your weird policy for IIT entrance, weirder for faculty recruitmentadd to the reservation, the standard is bound to get low. Are you aware that more than 80% of the students who get terminated from or get academic backlogs in IITs are from the reserved lot? Oh, you have an innovative solution for that as well, relax the passing criterion for them and give them degrees somehow; after all we have been oppressing them for ages. Let me again introduce you to the reality, companies coming for the recruitment are NOT dumb either. They will start asking for category in recruitment, even if you pump up their GPAs by relaxation criterion and bam!! You have jobless IITians! Now in the market and your beloved foreign countries where you and Anu Malik get most of your innovative, original ideas from, will not see this as the ‘reserved’ lot, and all this will only degrade the brand name my senior IIT alumni have worked so hard to build.
Awaiting the “Common Sense for All” Bill.
Talking of you, Mr Sibal.


Ever heard of primary education, and children in rural areas not even having access to it? Passing a Right to Education (RTE) bill and giving a press conference about it can keep you in the media for a week but to actually make some change you have to implement it. Mid-day meals website is selling Viagra under your noses. I am not sure if mid-day meal fall under your domain. No, maybe not; after all, mid-day meals are not an IIT activity. You are just busy looking into which coaching the JEE topper was enrolled with.

By the way, are you also suffering from a short term memory loss? Weren’t you this guy who said in an interview to Karan Thapar, “IITs are precious; I will not interfere with them”? Or are we both using different dictionaries to look up the meaning of ‘interfere’ and ‘precious’?

If you ask me, A. Raja, Madhu Koda and Suresh Kalmadi are much better than you. They are just taking away India’s money, not its future. You should be ashamed of yourself after reading the next line, but IIPM students have better sense of right or wrong than you do. And yes, I am saying this despite being fully aware that they are the ones who take admission in IIPM even after reading all the false claims.

I have many more things to say to you, but am keeping it short, considering you might be very busy going though the list of students who qualified JEE to take admission in the 15 (or 16, 17, or 20, or whatever number you increased it to since I started writing this article till I publish it) IITs. Checking which rank holder got which IIT and what department, thinking about launching a CBI enquiry into it. Do that! Because the (self-proclaimed) emerging superpower India needs its best crime investigation agency (CBI) and HRD ministry to do nothing better today. While we are at it, I got a B in a course in my 3rd semester, could you ask CBI to look into it, please… pretty please!!

— A voice straight from the heart of an IIT Alumnus


About the author

Bijender Sheoran

I am a 23 years old Mechanical Engineer from IIT Kanpur, currently working in Noida. I like to try my hand at a diverse range of things and my interest keeps changing from time to time. I have been a part of IITK's cultural festival (Antaragni) and technical festival (Techkriti) while in college. A big movie buff and loves watching TV serials, Lost and Hustle are my favorite, reads anything and everything and getting addicted to Facebook and twitter.

382 Comments

  • haha..hillarious (Viagra sold on MDM site ooo!).. and seems some of our china town discussions pooped out! :).

  • gud job sonny! (am d mother of an IIT aspirant 4 2011 nd he sent me d link) found it a l'l too sarcastic, bt i gs its OK. i know u ppl wd write abt IITs or related stuff bt try writing abt CCE introduced by ur Mr. Sibal again last year in CBSE schools(actually am a tchr too, i tch senior classes in a public school, dts why ds concern).

  • gud job sonny! (am d mother of an IIT aspirant 4 2011 nd he sent me d link) found it a l'l too sarcastic, bt i gs its OK. i know u ppl wd write abt IITs or related stuff bt try writing abt CCE introduced by ur Mr. Sibal again last year in CBSE schools(actually am a tchr too, i tch senior classes in a public school, dts why ds concern).

  • @Ajit: hehe….thanx for taking some time out to read it, I know u wud be hell busy…..ya the China Town discussions were class man!….btw all the best 🙂

  • @Ajit: hehe….thanx for taking some time out to read it, I know u wud be hell busy…..ya the China Town discussions were class man!….btw all the best 🙂

  • shit man!!…u r an IITian :O ….never knew after reading that Facebook Apps article…..u write too good for an IITian! 😛

    • @Rohit: seriously dude???….u still are living with that stereotype…wake up, throw away that only CB novel u have read, read this and my earlier articles, read again if u don't understand upto that level in first go and then we'll talk….

  • @Rohit: seriously dude???….u still are living with that stereotype…wake up, throw away that only CB novel u have read, read this and my earlier articles, read again if u don't understand upto that level in first go and then we'll talk….

  • Real feelings of those students who dream to get into IIT's after a lot hard work and not getting it because of some stupids nature of judging people with and without reservations… These people's nature seems that only people with reservations are citizens of India and others not.. Guys we too are indians and after all we're not aliens..

  • 15 years since d start of d insti…n ppl still think iitg is running n kgp……for ur kind info iitg is nurturing iitp..n has one of d best campus in india…..n yeah…every student gets a single room in itg…its not crammed up like kgp or mumbai for d matter…
    being a delite i knw dat hostel acomodation was not provided to students who vr from delhi itself initially….mrover 3 students r crammed i 1 room dere….iitg is a much btr place when it comes to infrastructure…
    while kanpurs audi n lec theatres are leaking…..we have new beatiful LTs n Audis with 2000+ capacity…..with projectors, mikes n aditional power back ups in each n every clas rom…our academic building is 1 km long to say d least..

    • nothing to boast about, man. you have a new campus, so you don't face these problems. your time will come! 😀

      and what the frick do you do with a 1km long main building??? :O did you people manage to pack all departments into one building or what? very bad, for future expansion, if so. also congos on having beautiful audis and projectors
      (like other IITs don't have that – what? all of kanpur's theatres are leaking? like i said, guwahati's time will come when it gets old enough) and rooms (we have to sleep on the roads, we have no accommodation 🙁 )

      a) single rooms are not provided to juniors so as to promote interaction. i had to live with a roomie in my 1st year and another in my 2nd year. i wouldn't exchange those experiences and memories for anything.
      b) new rooms and lecture theatres are nothing. the real power of a college lies in its age. it's like fine wine – the older the better. a college is only as good as it's alumni base. you have no significant alumni base to speak of.

      as i've already said, everything will happen. your lecture theatres will get old and leak, sibal will pack more students into your hostels, and you'll become an older but more respected college. just don't be in so much josh over trivial things. it's unbecoming of an IITian. (yes, i realize i'm showing josh too. but this is not a trivial thing).

      for the record, i'm a kgpian. my college mentored yours. boo-yeah!!! 😀

    • If you do want to promote iitg so that a few guys think of it while filling their choices, better go somewhere other than the internet 😛
      If you want huha infrastructure, just take your @ss off to some private engineering college where you get AC hostel rooms and 10 courses of meals 😛
      Dude the need of the hour is quality + quantity. Not quantity over quality!
      And btw your total intake is less than half of IITKGP if I'm not wrong 😛

  • 15 years since d start of d insti…n ppl still think iitg is running n kgp……for ur kind info iitg is nurturing iitp..n has one of d best campus in india…..n yeah…every student gets a single room in itg…its not crammed up like kgp or mumbai for d matter…
    being a delite i knw dat hostel acomodation was not provided to students who vr from delhi itself initially….mrover 3 students r crammed i 1 room dere….iitg is a much btr place when it comes to infrastructure…
    while kanpurs audi n lec theatres are leaking…..we have new beatiful LTs n Audis with 2000+ capacity…..with projectors, mikes n aditional power back ups in each n every clas rom…our academic building is 1 km long to say d least..

    • nothing to boast about, man. you have a new campus, so you don't face these problems. your time will come! 😀

      and what the frick do you do with a 1km long main building??? :O did you people manage to pack all departments into one building or what? very bad, for future expansion, if so. also congos on having beautiful audis and projectors
      (like other IITs don't have that – what? all of kanpur's theatres are leaking? like i said, guwahati's time will come when it gets old enough) and rooms (we have to sleep on the roads, we have no accommodation 🙁 )

      a) single rooms are not provided to juniors so as to promote interaction. i had to live with a roomie in my 1st year and another in my 2nd year. i wouldn't exchange those experiences and memories for anything.
      b) new rooms and lecture theatres are nothing. the real power of a college lies in its age. it's like fine wine – the older the better. a college is only as good as it's alumni base. you have no significant alumni base to speak of.

      as i've already said, everything will happen. your lecture theatres will get old and leak, sibal will pack more students into your hostels, and you'll become an older but more respected college. just don't be in so much josh over trivial things. it's unbecoming of an IITian. (yes, i realize i'm showing josh too. but this is not a trivial thing).

      for the record, i'm a kgpian. my college mentored yours. boo-yeah!!! 😀

    • If you do want to promote iitg so that a few guys think of it while filling their choices, better go somewhere other than the internet 😛
      If you want huha infrastructure, just take your @ss off to some private engineering college where you get AC hostel rooms and 10 courses of meals 😛
      Dude the need of the hour is quality + quantity. Not quantity over quality!
      And btw your total intake is less than half of IITKGP if I'm not wrong 😛

  • real good………kudos 🙂 ….and people like kapil sibal wont do anything even after reading this………because these people dont give a damn to the country……they are totally shameless and characterless………its us who need to change the country more than anyone else…….dont know how it would be done though…….!!!

  • wow… that was a great article…. way 2 go!! he has brought a lot of crap in the indian education system… as if we didn't have enough to deal with before!!

  • hope that man sibal can build some IQ by readin it..or at worst ask 4 a CBI enqyiry bout this post as well…
    R.I.P. sibal…

  • hope that man sibal can build some IQ by readin it..or at worst ask 4 a CBI enqyiry bout this post as well…
    R.I.P. sibal…

    • Forward this link to your director (you can get his email id from the instiute's home page) and ask him to forward it to the MHRD . This is one way of making Mr.Kapil Sibal read this post and get enlightened. Its high time he should realize that he is creating perforations in an already sinking ship.

  • But I think Kapil sibal has done a lot of life saving work after his predecessor , Arjun Singh . It takes guts in cancelling the deemed university status of 44 institutions in India … which was the first thing he did …Also , IIT as a brand have diluted due to the Government's counter anti-reservation measures … which included increasing number of IITs , which harmed it more … At any day , Kapil Sibal is giving high publicity space to IITs which are helping it anyway …. Though this article may give very skewed view to Non IITians reading this … about IITs , but those who attend IITs know that its not that big gr8 thing … , and if anything helps is the brand name which alumni are creating in silicon valley ….
    One of biggest hurdles for IITs to come in top university lists is that it is limited to few departments and about medical department at IIT …. Since MIT has one , so , IIT must have one … thats it ….
    And about publicity stunts , they are necessary components of architecture of soft power … Such news have potential of increased investments in India … given the fact the top schools outside are considering to build campuses in India … which sent shockwaves to IITs , because of

      • I totally agree with you..infra-structure is the first thing we should make sure of. Forget about infra-structure for medical courses, look at the new IITs which now taking BTechs for 3-4 engg departments only…the first 5-6 batches of IITGn (for example) wont even be able to see the proper IIT campus…they are still like refugees in some other govt engg college campus!

        • Do you know that IIT-K did not have its own campus for first three years? Probably that is not your concern?

      • Well, answer this- India gives the cream to IITs and what do the IITians give in return to the India? A name in silicon valley, a company there, some big ceo's in MNC's? Yeah, I know this is the globalization era and we should overcome this petty feelings.. but at the end of the day, not many patents or researches have been conducted at IIT for gods sake. The true and best places to study are still in the south India and are not IITs.. Why do you people overlook IISc, RRI, TIFR.. It is here the true university thing exists and is forstered in that regard. And for IITs they are just production houses of engineers for the MNCs. Being in IIT you might be aware more than 80% of junta there leaves India every year, and that too for settling there, not for returning back with some knowledge and improving the country!
        Look at Japan, a country prone to earthquakes, tsunami has no minerals or even cultivable soil for that matter, but just look at their patriotism!! Hats off to them..
        And here back in India, we have every sort of thing that a country should be giving its people still the denizens here are complaint boxes and do nothing instead of thinking about their home, their friends, and their college- IITs, their blog and what not!
        No feeling of belonging is there in the countrymen.
        Sitting and blogging is very easy dude!
        Come face the heat, if you have guts, go make Mr. Sibal read this and suggest what better can be done…

    • forget about the infrastructure, even they had no specific plans to maintain the current one. IIT faculty quality as well as number are dwindling day by day…..

      when you says USA, even the toppers of IITs are working as faculty there…. they had even opened 7 new IITs with no faculty. The professors there are either the retired ones or had being hired from the old IITs and hence worsened the problem of IIT…

      If you want to do anything with IITs, first ask the IITs itself (senior professors,the directors (if they not involved in politics))
      first we need to save what we have right now then think about any growth…

      • Kapil is highlighting himself with BRAND IIT………. IITs dont need his admiration or publicity.

  • But I think Kapil sibal has done a lot of life saving work after his predecessor , Arjun Singh . It takes guts in cancelling the deemed university status of 44 institutions in India … which was the first thing he did …Also , IIT as a brand have diluted due to the Government's counter anti-reservation measures … which included increasing number of IITs , which harmed it more … At any day , Kapil Sibal is giving high publicity space to IITs which are helping it anyway …. Though this article may give very skewed view to Non IITians reading this … about IITs , but those who attend IITs know that its not that big gr8 thing … , and if anything helps is the brand name which alumni are creating in silicon valley ….
    One of biggest hurdles for IITs to come in top university lists is that it is limited to few departments and about medical department at IIT …. Since MIT has one , so , IIT must have one … thats it ….
    And about publicity stunts , they are necessary components of architecture of soft power … Such news have potential of increased investments in India … given the fact the top schools outside are considering to build campuses in India … which sent shockwaves to IITs , because of

      • I totally agree with you..infra-structure is the first thing we should make sure of. Forget about infra-structure for medical courses, look at the new IITs which now taking BTechs for 3-4 engg departments only…the first 5-6 batches of IITGn (for example) wont even be able to see the proper IIT campus…they are still like refugees in some other govt engg college campus!

        • Do you know that IIT-K did not have its own campus for first three years? Probably that is not your concern?

  • the article is otherwise nice, but like most of authors, the writer of this piece too took the liberty of some sweeping statements to make the piece more attractive.

    my particular objection is to the the part where the author, if i go by the statistics then most probably a product of a very good coaching institute, takes on Kapil Sibbal for ordering a CBI inquiry against the coaching institutes.

    Now you talked about Sibbal being worse than Kalmadi who ate a lot of money from the common wealth budget. The common wealth's exploded budget is around 30,000 Crore.

    According to the Associated Chambers of Commerce and Industry, the size of the IIT coaching industry is Rs 10,000 crore. This is the expected annual turnover.

    A great share of this turnover is extracted from the purse of average middle class Indian parent, who falling prey to the tall and false claims of the coaching institutes, shell out the savings of their lifetime to give their children the best IIT JEE coaching.

    If Sibbal wants to check one of the most corrupt industries of India , something which not only eats away money but also future, then i guess u should not have a problem with it.

  • the article is otherwise nice, but like most of authors, the writer of this piece too took the liberty of some sweeping statements to make the piece more attractive.

    my particular objection is to the the part where the author, if i go by the statistics then most probably a product of a very good coaching institute, takes on Kapil Sibbal for ordering a CBI inquiry against the coaching institutes.

    Now you talked about Sibbal being worse than Kalmadi who ate a lot of money from the common wealth budget. The common wealth's exploded budget is around 30,000 Crore.

    According to the Associated Chambers of Commerce and Industry, the size of the IIT coaching industry is Rs 10,000 crore. This is the expected annual turnover.

    A great share of this turnover is extracted from the purse of average middle class Indian parent, who falling prey to the tall and false claims of the coaching institutes, shell out the savings of their lifetime to give their children the best IIT JEE coaching.

    If Sibbal wants to check one of the most corrupt industries of India , something which not only eats away money but also future, then i guess u should not have a problem with it.

  • too good boss … love it …
    @kapil sibal :please give preference in preserving iit ians now than tigers because we are just roughly 4 times their current no. but out of a 1.2 billlion population we are damn minute … (8000/1,200,000,000)*100=0.0006666 % of the population …… detailed calcs for iq factors …

  • too good boss … love it …
    @kapil sibal :please give preference in preserving iit ians now than tigers because we are just roughly 4 times their current no. but out of a 1.2 billlion population we are damn minute … (8000/1,200,000,000)*100=0.0006666 % of the population …… detailed calcs for iq factors …

  • awesome boss …….
    @ kapil sibbal : don't you think….opening new IITs without any proper infrastructure and facilities, is just playing wth the lives of many of the jee-rank holders……….and now the ministry is thinking to give IIT status to IT-BHU , then why the hell you opened new IITs in the first place…… damn you !!

    • Salim, do you know that IT BHU has been taking students through JEE since JEE started? And it is older than the oldest IIT? And many students choose ITBHU's 'better' branches over IIT's 'worse' branches. If you think that IT BHU doesn't deserve the IIT status even after you know all these facts, then we have no grounds for discussions?
      Secondly, to the author of the piece, do you think that India is well served by just 7-10 IITs? And talking about brand value of IITs, just because it was featured in CBS 60 minutes and some big shots in Silicon Valley paid lip service to IITians doesn't mean that we have a BIG brand value. Hell, we don't even figure in top 100 tech institutes.
      About infrastructure: In a country such as ours, infrastructure follows official policy and not the other way round. With how many buildings did IIT K start? And did the first batch of IIT Kgp feel like jail birds as the building was a converted prison? On the contrary, it has become a legend. Give the new IITs some time and they will be pretty soon catching up with the older IITs. I know there is a lot of vested interest in the lobby which opposes new IITs. Their argument is that we are an exclusive club. Don't expand the membership.
      Disclaimer: I am an alumnus of IT-BHU

  • awesome boss …….
    @ kapil sibbal : don't you think….opening new IITs without any proper infrastructure and facilities, is just playing wth the lives of many of the jee-rank holders……….and now the ministry is thinking to give IIT status to IT-BHU , then why the hell you opened new IITs in the first place…… damn you !!

    • Salim, do you know that IT BHU has been taking students through JEE since JEE started? And it is older than the oldest IIT? And many students choose ITBHU's 'better' branches over IIT's 'worse' branches. If you think that IT BHU doesn't deserve the IIT status even after you know all these facts, then we have no grounds for discussions?
      Secondly, to the author of the piece, do you think that India is well served by just 7-10 IITs? And talking about brand value of IITs, just because it was featured in CBS 60 minutes and some big shots in Silicon Valley paid lip service to IITians doesn't mean that we have a BIG brand value. Hell, we don't even figure in top 100 tech institutes.
      About infrastructure: In a country such as ours, infrastructure follows official policy and not the other way round. With how many buildings did IIT K start? And did the first batch of IIT Kgp feel like jail birds as the building was a converted prison? On the contrary, it has become a legend. Give the new IITs some time and they will be pretty soon catching up with the older IITs. I know there is a lot of vested interest in the lobby which opposes new IITs. Their argument is that we are an exclusive club. Don't expand the membership.
      Disclaimer: I am an alumnus of IT-BHU

  • Folks, I blundered about Guwahati which should have read Bhubaneswar. But does it take away the fact that IITs are being made to increase seats without corresponding investment in infrastructure and without adequate focus on quality teaching? Some of you have been downright offensive and personal in your responses. Back off.

  • Folks, I blundered about Guwahati which should have read Bhubaneswar. But does it take away the fact that IITs are being made to increase seats without corresponding investment in infrastructure and without adequate focus on quality teaching? Some of you have been downright offensive and personal in your responses. Back off.

  • absolutely bingo!!…
    hey people publish it each and everywhere…mail it, tweet it,fb it….we should make sure Sibbal reads this…you have really clubbed all the fealings in one single article….well done!

  • absolutely bingo!!…
    hey people publish it each and everywhere…mail it, tweet it,fb it….we should make sure Sibbal reads this…you have really clubbed all the fealings in one single article….well done!

  • really nice work…
    Definitely for new IITs good infrastructure is required but the more important issue is from where they are going to provide such well qualified professors.. they are going to ruin future of many students and also legacy of IITs.

  • vao……….amazing..
    has sum1 told u dt u r an amazing mindreader….i really hope MR. Sibal reads dis or at lest his secy…

  • vao……….amazing..
    has sum1 told u dt u r an amazing mindreader….i really hope MR. Sibal reads dis or at lest his secy…

  • just let me put in on record!! INDIA DOES NOT HAVE BAD DOCTORS…. RATHER THE HEALTH INFRA STRUCTURE IS SUCH THAT IN PRIMARY HEALTH CENTRE WE R FORCED TO USE OUT DATED EQUIPMENT AND DRUGS, IF ANY!!!

    AND ITS A SHAM THAT SIBAL IS TRYING TO PULL OFF BY TRYING TO INCLUDE MEDICINE IN IITs … No one is excited !!

  • just let me put in on record!! INDIA DOES NOT HAVE BAD DOCTORS…. RATHER THE HEALTH INFRA STRUCTURE IS SUCH THAT IN PRIMARY HEALTH CENTRE WE R FORCED TO USE OUT DATED EQUIPMENT AND DRUGS, IF ANY!!!

    AND ITS A SHAM THAT SIBAL IS TRYING TO PULL OFF BY TRYING TO INCLUDE MEDICINE IN IITs … No one is excited !!

  • I have been really patient in reading this whole letter…Before commenting further I would like to clarify that I am not favouring or disfavouring anybody…Nor am I anyhow political…Perhaps according to me politics is dirtiest, though one of the most significat professions…Firstly, I would like to say that critiscism is perhaps the easiest thing that one can do.All what you have to do is to sit back, ponder upon a “little” piece of information and further make some largely biased, prejudiced judgements or conclusions out of it for that matter..And moreover social mediums like these help in the open circulation of these conclusions/judgements across a sizeable population of the country !!I have been really patient in reading this whole letter…Before commenting further I would like to clarify that I am not favouring or disfavouring anybody…Nor am I anyhow political…Perhaps according to me politics is dirtiest, though one of the most significat professions…
    Firstly, I would like to say that critiscism is perhaps the easiest thing that one can do.All what you have to do is to sit back, ponder upon a “little” piece of information and further make some largely biased, prejudiced judgements or conclusions out of it for that matter..And moreover social mediums like these help in the open circulation of these conclusions/judgements across a sizeable population of the country !!

  • Dear Akshay….Let me congratulate you on your patience first!… I on the other hand lack this virtue especially when it comes to reading ill-structured, incoherent and baseless stuff. So could you please be kind enough to either summarize your…ehh…whatever you call it for my benefit and also join the Rapidex English Writing course for greater good of people.

  • Dear Akshay….Let me congratulate you on your patience first!… I on the other hand lack this virtue especially when it comes to reading ill-structured, incoherent and baseless stuff. So could you please be kind enough to either summarize your…ehh…whatever you call it for my benefit and also join the Rapidex English Writing course for greater good of people.

  • Bijender,Interesting post.. But I have a question..Do you think Indians are dumber than americans??NO, right? But you see in world every 1 out of 6 people are from india.. and 80% of them are non SC/ST..

    • I don't think the author is against the reservation but perhaps the way it is implemented and used for political gains irks him. If this is not the case then he needs a serious reality check.

      As for the piece itself – I came here from Facebook, saw so much appreciation, it piqued my curiosity and I read it – it is anything but funny/satirical/sarcastic (I know they have different meanings). Trying so hard to be funny it just bores you and you want to go back to good old fakingnews.

      About the MDM website selling viagra – we in IITB used to get viagra, penis enlargement etc mails on a daily basis marked to out HoD and copied to all of us + I also remember IITK website being hacked twice – don't know if it tarnished the brand image of precious IITs

      • Thanx Altan….u r right about my views on reservation….read reply to Manoj for detail.

        Regarding your views on what is satire and what is not….its so nice how you think, I care what you think…..unless….unless your view is ISO certified…is it now?? 😛

    • Dear Manoj,
      You yourself raise the issue and have given the solution….quoting you, “99% people in IIT are not from below-poverty-line”….EXACTLY…..poverty knows no class or caste, the basis of reservation in its current form is serving no purpose….initially yes it benefited the SC/ST but now only those people who have benefited once are reaping the benefit….these are quite sound economically….secondly the reservation, as Altan rightly pointed out, has become a way of gaining votes by political class
      ———-

      Now, you say, “we claimed 100% reservation for 2000 years” ….dude—-what? how ?? when???

      ———-
      You speak like an expert in your 3rd para where you analyze IITs and SC/STs and their performance, giving supportive (or speculative) data,

      • Bijender,
        Thanks for your reply..

        I agreed on your 1st para earlier.. that reservation should be based on a factor of caste. merit and economic status..

        • I totally agree with all of what you have said…. I am also studying in IIT Roorkee and I totally agree that we should not base our opinion of what news channel show about the ill effects of reservations and agitate people about protesting. I want to support Manoj's fact by only asking one question that in the long history of India(more then 5000 years) why is that people from lower caste have started studying only in the past 60 years. Before that there was no one besides Dr.Bhemrao Ambedkar (the father of indian constitution) was able to study beyond schooling. How come it happen that people from SC/ST are so dumb that they are not even able to do schooling people from upper class are seen in every section of the society. The only reason was that no one from lower caste was allowed to enter into the education institutions. Can you justify a guys intelligence from his caste. People from big cities are only shouting about the ill effects of reservations on society but have you ever imagined about the crores of populations living in rural India????? There still a different society exists which still doesn't favors education of the lower caste people. Even if someone from lower caste wants to go to school then he is discriminated badly and eventually he is forced to work as labour and finally no matter what is his intelligence level,.. he remains backward. One educated person can change an entire history of his family. If under so much oppression he is provided a small benefit of reservation on the basis of which he could afford education then I there is nothing wrong in that. Sure some people may be taking advantage of reservation but on the whole this society has been progressing at much faster rate in the past 60 years. Infact in the past 2decades there is a lot of improvement that has taken place in lower caste people. At last I only want to say that compare the level intelligence and GPA and everything else in life when you provide equal opportunities to all the sections of society.

  • Bijender,Interesting post.. But I have a question..Do you think Indians are dumber than americans??NO, right? But you see in world every 1 out of 6 people are from india.. and 80% of them are non SC/ST..

    • I don't think the author is against the reservation but perhaps the way it is implemented and used for political gains irks him. If this is not the case then he needs a serious reality check.

      As for the piece itself – I came here from Facebook, saw so much appreciation, it piqued my curiosity and I read it – it is anything but funny/satirical/sarcastic (I know they have different meanings). Trying so hard to be funny it just bores you and you want to go back to good old fakingnews.

      About the MDM website selling viagra – we in IITB used to get viagra, penis enlargement etc mails on a daily basis marked to out HoD and copied to all of us + I also remember IITK website being hacked twice – don't know if it tarnished the brand image of precious IITs

      • Thanx Altan….u r right about my views on reservation….read reply to Manoj for detail.

        Regarding your views on what is satire and what is not….its so nice how you think, I care what you think…..unless….unless your view is ISO certified…is it now?? 😛

    • Dear Manoj,
      You yourself raise the issue and have given the solution….quoting you, “99% people in IIT are not from below-poverty-line”….EXACTLY…..poverty knows no class or caste, the basis of reservation in its current form is serving no purpose….initially yes it benefited the SC/ST but now only those people who have benefited once are reaping the benefit….these are quite sound economically….secondly the reservation, as Altan rightly pointed out, has become a way of gaining votes by political class
      ———-

      Now, you say, “we claimed 100% reservation for 2000 years” ….dude—-what? how ?? when???

      ———-
      You speak like an expert in your 3rd para where you analyze IITs and SC/STs and their performance, giving supportive (or speculative) data,

  • Post this article at many places as possible may be somehow sibal would read d shit he is spreading in our country…students taking admission in new IIT's

  • Post this article at many places as possible may be somehow sibal would read d shit he is spreading in our country…students taking admission in new IIT's

  • What you have written is extremely ridiculous and any amount of criticism to it is less. Its surprising that you being an IIT product have failed to appreciate whatever little progress this country has made.The purpose of high-level institutions is to produce enlightened individuals who later on can contribute to build the country.
    To have or not have medicine in IITs is a separate question and viewing everything with a pair of tinted glasses serves no purpose.You have been extremely critical of the affairs of the system and written off everything.
    I would like to tell you that the situation is not as bad as you think.Please shed your cynicism.
    Thanks! Good luck! You write well otherwise.

  • What you have written is extremely ridiculous and any amount of criticism to it is less. Its surprising that you being an IIT product have failed to appreciate whatever little progress this country has made.The purpose of high-level institutions is to produce enlightened individuals who later on can contribute to build the country.
    To have or not have medicine in IITs is a separate question and viewing everything with a pair of tinted glasses serves no purpose.You have been extremely critical of the affairs of the system and written off everything.
    I would like to tell you that the situation is not as bad as you think.Please shed your cynicism.
    Thanks! Good luck! You write well otherwise.

  • Few days back I wrote a similar article.. it was on the mess happening in the MAHARASHTRA State Board of educatn…
    I LOVED this one!!!
    Seriously, mke sure concerned authorities read this..
    It shudnt be difficult for u guys!

  • Few days back I wrote a similar article.. it was on the mess happening in the MAHARASHTRA State Board of educatn…
    I LOVED this one!!!
    Seriously, mke sure concerned authorities read this..
    It shudnt be difficult for u guys!

  • hey .. great words … i m second year student of IIT !!
    and at any cost i can't tolerate the repo of insti going down !

  • hey .. great words … i m second year student of IIT !!
    and at any cost i can't tolerate the repo of insti going down !

  • 1. IIMs also give an weightage to boards marks..
    They use percentiles instead of percentages.. Boards marks shows perseverence, which is a big factor for research.. Boards exam doesnt need intense coaching like JEE.. So, people from rural india also get a chance to fight.. I didnt see many IITians from rural india who came to IIT without

  • good job!
    But i would like to inform the author that NEPAL has never been a state of India and is Independent country since very long and it's ridiculous to mention such things……

      • wow !! very conveniently, you took the liberty of deriding an independant nation(Nepal). Dude, dont resort to such things just to make ur article humourous. Speak responsibly.

  • good job!
    But i would like to inform the author that NEPAL has never been a state of India and is Independent country since very long and it's ridiculous to mention such things……

      • wow !! very conveniently, you took the liberty of deriding an independant nation(Nepal). Dude, dont resort to such things just to make ur article humourous. Speak responsibly.

  • Awesome, send it in hard copy to MHRD addressing to Kapil Sibbal and with the subject: Very Important related to IIT , he will surely read it as IITs are his first priority!!!!

  • Awesome, send it in hard copy to MHRD addressing to Kapil Sibbal and with the subject: Very Important related to IIT , he will surely read it as IITs are his first priority!!!!

  • Brilliant max article.. echoes all my sensibilities perfectly.. along with the various intelligent references to IIPM, Rakhi Sawant and others.
    And why not each one of us send the link of this article to Kapil Sibal through his official website (may be, he'll notice the angst in us IITians).. i did so, others should also.

  • Brilliant max article.. echoes all my sensibilities perfectly.. along with the various intelligent references to IIPM, Rakhi Sawant and others.
    And why not each one of us send the link of this article to Kapil Sibal through his official website (may be, he'll notice the angst in us IITians).. i did so, others should also.

  • Same thing Mr.Sibal tried with existing NIT's too.. He is even destroying the brand of NIT's ….He increased the existing number of NIT's from 18 to 30 in a span of 2 years….He gave funds to open NIT's in such states where students would never ever have proposed to go and study and thus every year during AIEEE counselling we se a lot of vacant seats in such NIT's , finally making this whole counselling exercise into a never ending circus fair, henceforth devaluing the process of selection process of NIT's in itself.

    I would like to give few examples how his ideas are being seeped down under and are being carried forward by few of his corrupt followers.
    He and his cohort of corrupt puppets include Mr.Y.V. Rao, ex-director of NIT Warangal , was thrown away by the student force within the campus due to his bad deeds. Mr Y.V. Rao, under due guidance of people like Sibal and Ms. Purandeshwari( minister of state for HRD) , was first to implement the 50% OBC quota on campus among all NIT's, so that in the name of increasing infrastructure on campus and disguising himself as a benefactor , he could mint money on a large scale and feed his gangmembers to secure his position of Director of NIT Warangal until his death. But all kudos to the student force and a media expose due to which he was ousted from the campus this March.

    This puppet(Mr.Y.V. Rao) of Mr. Sibal , was also the first one to declare that a Medical institution would be set up on campus. There wasn't any rationale behind this proposed plan, but people could immediately percieve his intentions of minting money in the name of setting up a medical institution.

    As author rightly pointed out, Mr. Sibal instead of building different and independent brands, he has been involved in the process of degenerating the precious brands like IITs or NIT's which their alumni has built upon in the past 50 years. In my view , these initiatives of increasing IIT's/NIT's in India, or setting up medical institutions in these centrally funded institutions, is merely a cosmetic exercise in the name of technical development, but the real motive seems to be filling up their pockets in the name of increasing infrastructure in such colleges.

    It boils down to a famous quote :- two is a company, three is a crowd.

    Our country has been robbed in the past in the name of religion, regional chauvinism etc. etc. by these crooked beneficiaries in the name of development, but now technical education is in their line of sight , We need to protect it so that these pillars of our future growth do net get attacked by such political termites.

  • Same thing Mr.Sibal tried with existing NIT's too.. He is even destroying the brand of NIT's ….He increased the existing number of NIT's from 18 to 30 in a span of 2 years….He gave funds to open NIT's in such states where students would never ever have proposed to go and study and thus every year during AIEEE counselling we se a lot of vacant seats in such NIT's , finally making this whole counselling exercise into a never ending circus fair, henceforth devaluing the process of selection process of NIT's in itself.

    I would like to give few examples how his ideas are being seeped down under and are being carried forward by few of his corrupt followers.
    He and his cohort of corrupt puppets include Mr.Y.V. Rao, ex-director of NIT Warangal , was thrown away by the student force within the campus due to his bad deeds. Mr Y.V. Rao, under due guidance of people like Sibal and Ms. Purandeshwari( minister of state for HRD) , was first to implement the 50% OBC quota on campus among all NIT's, so that in the name of increasing infrastructure on campus and disguising himself as a benefactor , he could mint money on a large scale and feed his gangmembers to secure his position of Director of NIT Warangal until his death. But all kudos to the student force and a media expose due to which he was ousted from the campus this March.

    This puppet(Mr.Y.V. Rao) of Mr. Sibal , was also the first one to declare that a Medical institution would be set up on campus. There wasn't any rationale behind this proposed plan, but people could immediately percieve his intentions of minting money in the name of setting up a medical institution.

    As author rightly pointed out, Mr. Sibal instead of building different and independent brands, he has been involved in the process of degenerating the precious brands like IITs or NIT's which their alumni has built upon in the past 50 years. In my view , these initiatives of increasing IIT's/NIT's in India, or setting up medical institutions in these centrally funded institutions, is merely a cosmetic exercise in the name of technical development, but the real motive seems to be filling up their pockets in the name of increasing infrastructure in such colleges.

    It boils down to a famous quote :- two is a company, three is a crowd.

    Our country has been robbed in the past in the name of religion, regional chauvinism etc. etc. by these crooked beneficiaries in the name of development, but now technical education is in their line of sight , We need to protect it so that these pillars of our future growth do net get attacked by such political termites.

  • Same thing Mr.Sibal tried with existing NIT's too.. He is even destroying the brand of NIT's ….He increased the existing number of NIT's from 18 to 30 in a span of 2 years….He gave funds to open NIT's in such states where students would never ever have proposed to go and study and thus every year during AIEEE counselling we se a lot of vacant seats in such NIT's , finally making this whole counselling exercise into a never ending circus fair, henceforth devaluing the process of selection process of NIT's in itself.

  • Same thing Mr.Sibal tried with existing NIT's too.. He is even destroying the brand of NIT's ….He increased the existing number of NIT's from 18 to 30 in a span of 2 years….He gave funds to open NIT's in such states where students would never ever have proposed to go and study and thus every year during AIEEE counselling we se a lot of vacant seats in such NIT's , finally making this whole counselling exercise into a never ending circus fair, henceforth devaluing the process of selection process of NIT's in itself.

  • Same thing Mr.Sibal tried with existing NIT's too.. He is even destroying the brand of NIT's ….He increased the existing number of NIT's from 18 to 30 in a span of 2 years….He gave funds to open NIT's in such states where students would never ever have proposed to go and study and thus every year during AIEEE counselling we se a lot of vacant seats in such NIT's , finally making this whole counselling exercise into a never ending circus fair, henceforth devaluing the process of selection process of NIT's in itself.

    I would like to give few examples how his ideas are being seeped down under and are being carried forward by few of his corrupt followers.
    He and his cohort of corrupt puppets include Mr.Y.V. Rao, ex-director of NIT Warangal , was thrown away by the student force within the campus due to his bad deeds. Mr Y.V. Rao, under due guidance of people like Sibal and Ms. Purandeshwari( minister of state for HRD) , was first to implement the 50% OBC quota on campus among all NIT's, so that in the name of increasing infrastructure on campus and disguising himself as a benefactor , he could mint money on a large scale and feed his gangmembers to secure his position of Director of NIT Warangal until his death. But all kudos to the student force and a media expose due to which he was ousted from the campus this March.

    This puppet(Mr.Y.V. Rao) of Mr. Sibal , was also the first one to declare that a Medical institution would be set up on campus. There wasn't any rationale behind this proposed plan, but people could immediately percieve his intentions of minting money in the name of setting up a medical institution.

    As author rightly pointed out, Mr. Sibal instead of building different and independent brands, he has been involved in the process of degenerating the precious brands like IITs or NIT's which their alumni has built upon in the past 50 years. In my view , these initiatives of increasing IIT's/NIT's in India, or setting up medical institutions in these centrally funded institutions, is merely a cosmetic exercise in the name of technical development, but the real motive seems to be filling up their pockets in the name of increasing infrastructure in such colleges.

    It boils down to a famous quote :- two is a company, three is a crowd.

    Our country has been robbed in the past in the name of religion, regional chauvinism etc. etc. by these crooked beneficiaries in the name of development, but now technical education is in their line of sight , We need to protect it so that these pillars of our future growth do net get attacked by such political termites.

  • Same thing Mr.Sibal tried with existing NIT's too.. He is even destroying the brand of NIT's ….He increased the existing number of NIT's from 18 to 30 in a span of 2 years….He gave funds to open NIT's in such states where students would never ever have proposed to go and study and thus every year during AIEEE counselling we se a lot of vacant seats in such NIT's , finally making this whole counselling exercise into a never ending circus fair, henceforth devaluing the process of selection process of NIT's in itself.

    I would like to give few examples how his ideas are being seeped down under and are being carried forward by few of his corrupt followers.
    He and his cohort of corrupt puppets include Mr.Y.V. Rao, ex-director of NIT Warangal , was thrown away by the student force within the campus due to his bad deeds. Mr Y.V. Rao, under due guidance of people like Sibal and Ms. Purandeshwari( minister of state for HRD) , was first to implement the 50% OBC quota on campus among all NIT's, so that in the name of increasing infrastructure on campus and disguising himself as a benefactor , he could mint money on a large scale and feed his gangmembers to secure his position of Director of NIT Warangal until his death. But all kudos to the student force and a media expose due to which he was ousted from the campus this March.

    This puppet(Mr.Y.V. Rao) of Mr. Sibal , was also the first one to declare that a Medical institution would be set up on campus. There wasn't any rationale behind this proposed plan, but people could immediately percieve his intentions of minting money in the name of setting up a medical institution.

    As author rightly pointed out, Mr. Sibal instead of building different and independent brands, he has been involved in the process of degenerating the precious brands like IITs or NIT's which their alumni has built upon in the past 50 years. In my view , these initiatives of increasing IIT's/NIT's in India, or setting up medical institutions in these centrally funded institutions, is merely a cosmetic exercise in the name of technical development, but the real motive seems to be filling up their pockets in the name of increasing infrastructure in such colleges.

    It boils down to a famous quote :- two is a company, three is a crowd.

    Our country has been robbed in the past in the name of religion, regional chauvinism etc. etc. by these crooked beneficiaries in the name of development, but now technical education is in their line of sight , We need to protect it so that these pillars of our future growth do net get attacked by such political termites.

    • Dear Sagar,

      You have rightly pointed out that the motive behind Sibal's actions (like that of any other politician's these days) is not genuine (being corrupt seems to be in fashion since forever)….its either

  • Powerful, cogent arguments. . . but what is one to do about such people ? You kill/destroy one, a million more will be born, regular phoenixes they are . . . .

  • Powerful, cogent arguments. . . but what is one to do about such people ? You kill/destroy one, a million more will be born, regular phoenixes they are . . . .

  • Sibal should be shameful after reading this and if he doesn't change his mind after reading this article he is nothing more than an asshole

  • it really pains a lot a lot watching waht is being done to our country by the people we choose……..hats off to the writer for bringing out the frustration of millions of people

  • Dear Sir

    You seem to have forgotten that Kapil Sibal was the only Indian politician who stood up to Arjun Singh and openly opposed OBC reservations in the IITs and Central Institutions and refused to apologize for this even after orders to do so by the Congress 'High Command'. He also convened a meeting of IIT directors the next day he took charge as HRD minister to explore ways of undoing the reservations. I think you should acknowledge his guts instead of being so negative. IITs will only benefit if they start medicine and law schools otherwise the UGs of IITs will continue to emigrate abroad and sing praises of 'diversified' universities like UC Berkeley and Stanford that started out as Engineering institutes but evolved into full-fledged universities with medicine, law and management schools.

  • Dear Sir

    You seem to have forgotten that Kapil Sibal was the only Indian politician who stood up to Arjun Singh and openly opposed OBC reservations in the IITs and Central Institutions and refused to apologize for this even after orders to do so by the Congress 'High Command'. He also convened a meeting of IIT directors the next day he took charge as HRD minister to explore ways of undoing the reservations. I think you should acknowledge his guts instead of being so negative. IITs will only benefit if they start medicine and law schools otherwise the UGs of IITs will continue to emigrate abroad and sing praises of 'diversified' universities like UC Berkeley and Stanford that started out as Engineering institutes but evolved into full-fledged universities with medicine, law and management schools.

  • I don't quite support the sentiment that is flowing in your post….I did go to IIT and get a B.Tech…did not find it to be some really elite institution whose quality will get totally diluted with some more institutes opening up…but one way IIT really stands out(inside India)…is the way that the institute functions…this model is at least good…and more importantly people believe this model works…so why not replicate this model elsewhere…India needs to address the huge population who will graduate soon and look for opportunities to prosper and flourish…if these ppl come out with an IIT degree..they stand a better chance to grab those than if they came out from some other places…and one thing which as an IITian I believe you would appreciate is, let meritocracy decide the end result, but as an experienced adult, you need to consider that meritocracy doesnt always work out in real world…there are other factors too…kapil sibal is not the greatest reformer, he is at best average, but doesnt deserve so much bashing too…your post seems to have hurt yr pride in being at IITian …which is better to be put off somewhere else and believe me, it helps 🙂

      • Well, I did nt want to point out the finger to you as you are not the only one who shows this kind of sentiment. please dont take it personally. Let me clarify yours is a valid one…but all I ask you is to also ponder about the other possibilities and not shut your eyes to them completely…if our bigger objective is growth, then we have to take many people along with us and cant be elitists.

        For meritocracy part, it is a lot beyond an IIT tag. But there are certain social limitations in terms of accepting or recognizing merit..a fancy degree is often one of them… Meritocracy is not about entering IIT, it can be also be viewed in terms of doing something better than what others are doing with the same resources I have hope that people will come out of their cosy shell and do more real things to prove their merit than bask at the glory of entering IIT to get into some MNC or fly off to US (of course not all people in IITs are like that, I have seen all those different types, believe me)

  • I don't quite support the sentiment that is flowing in your post….I did go to IIT and get a B.Tech…did not find it to be some really elite institution whose quality will get totally diluted with some more institutes opening up…but one way IIT really stands out(inside India)…is the way that the institute functions…this model is at least good…and more importantly people believe this model works…so why not replicate this model elsewhere…India needs to address the huge population who will graduate soon and look for opportunities to prosper and flourish…if these ppl come out with an IIT degree..they stand a better chance to grab those than if they came out from some other places…and one thing which as an IITian I believe you would appreciate is, let meritocracy decide the end result, but as an experienced adult, you need to consider that meritocracy doesnt always work out in real world…there are other factors too…kapil sibal is not the greatest reformer, he is at best average, but doesnt deserve so much bashing too…your post seems to have hurt yr pride in being at IITian …which is better to be put off somewhere else and believe me, it helps 🙂

      • Well, I did nt want to point out the finger to you as you are not the only one who shows this kind of sentiment. please dont take it personally. Let me clarify yours is a valid one…but all I ask you is to also ponder about the other possibilities and not shut your eyes to them completely…if our bigger objective is growth, then we have to take many people along with us and cant be elitists.

        For meritocracy part, it is a lot beyond an IIT tag. But there are certain social limitations in terms of accepting or recognizing merit..a fancy degree is often one of them… Meritocracy is not about entering IIT, it can be also be viewed in terms of doing something better than what others are doing with the same resources I have hope that people will come out of their cosy shell and do more real things to prove their merit than bask at the glory of entering IIT to get into some MNC or fly off to US (of course not all people in IITs are like that, I have seen all those different types, believe me)

  • I agree with Olive S….You should take the increasing population into consideration….infact the growth in population is so high that currently the percentile of even the lower ranks(8,000-10,000) would be at par to the ones that got selected (and got a degree from the old “elite” IITs) 15 years ago….
    And yes Introduction of Medical has got both pros and cons….your concern about degrading the IIT brand is valid and not…IIT is a technology institute after all, but it is also has got the most funds when it comes to research and projects….introduction of medical will help the field of medicine in India and encourage research in that area….(and you already mentioned the deficit of girls here…;))
    For the rest u made sense to me…

    • Dear Shikhar,

      Thr is no problem in introducing medical into IITs as long as they create the necessary INFRASTRUCTURE first.
      otherwise they have to cramp 3-4 students in a single hostel room (which my juniors i'm sure won't have any problem with if they promise to make co-ed hostels :P) not to mention the deficit of faculties n all…

      btw thanx for liking the rest 🙂

  • Dear Shikhar,

    Thr is no problem in introducing medical into IITs as long as they create the necessary INFRASTRUCTURE first.
    otherwise they have to cramp 3-4 students in a single hostel room (which my juniors i'm sure won't have any problem with if they promise to make co-ed hostels :P) not to mention the deficit of faculties n all…

    btw thanx for liking the rest 🙂

  • Hello Bijender. Such a true letter. Shaa-bash. Bijender i am mother of a son who had given engg. entrances this year. he got 35400 (approx.) rank in aieee. he could not get nit as you must be knowing, this time, candidates were not allowed to give choices for the 7th round of counselling. 6th round choice filling was considered for the 7th round. my son wanted to change the choices in the 7th round but he could not. we have checked the status and found that even 40000 (+) rank candidates have got aieee. my son is in depression due to this. Bijender, last year i.e. 2009 and 2008, a special round of counselling was conducted after 7th round for the vacant seats/left over seats. It was on 8th sept. or so. Choice filling was to be done from 9th to 13th sept. and institute reporting was from 16th to 20th sept. or something. PLEASE READ NEXT COMMENT ALSO.

  • Hello Bijender. Such a true letter. Shaa-bash. Bijender i am mother of a son who had given engg. entrances this year. he got 35400 (approx.) rank in aieee. he could not get nit as you must be knowing, this time, candidates were not allowed to give choices for the 7th round of counselling. 6th round choice filling was considered for the 7th round. my son wanted to change the choices in the 7th round but he could not. we have checked the status and found that even 40000 (+) rank candidates have got aieee. my son is in depression due to this. Bijender, last year i.e. 2009 and 2008, a special round of counselling was conducted after 7th round for the vacant seats/left over seats. It was on 8th sept. or so. Choice filling was to be done from 9th to 13th sept. and institute reporting was from 16th to 20th sept. or something. PLEASE READ NEXT COMMENT ALSO.

  • i have prints of this notice. I can email it to u, if needed. But this time even vacancies are there, no information is available on ccb site till date i.e. 23rd sept. whether special round will be conducted or not. All the admissions will be over on 30th sept. – very less time left. Bijender, I don't have much knowledge whom to contact/ask. Can u help me in any way to send my words to Mr. Kapil Sibbal or any other authority who can understand the problem and get the action done. What is to be done is get the vacancy position of NITs verified and counselling for the left over vacancies done. Bijender this is the question of my son's (even other candidates) 's career. Hoping for an early reply from you.

  • i have prints of this notice. I can email it to u, if needed. But this time even vacancies are there, no information is available on ccb site till date i.e. 23rd sept. whether special round will be conducted or not. All the admissions will be over on 30th sept. – very less time left. Bijender, I don't have much knowledge whom to contact/ask. Can u help me in any way to send my words to Mr. Kapil Sibbal or any other authority who can understand the problem and get the action done. What is to be done is get the vacancy position of NITs verified and counselling for the left over vacancies done. Bijender this is the question of my son's (even other candidates) 's career. Hoping for an early reply from you.

  • 1. I am an IIT-B student myself, so you can discount that I am writing this because of some sort of frustration.
    2. The sarcasm strongly reeks of being obnoxious rather that anything else. True, board marks being considered as a criteria is stupid, and this whole thing is just a publicity stunt, but
    a. Do you seriously believe that India does NOT need more IITs? Would not they be be equal to the established IITs in the coming years? And is it not absurd to say that the fraction of students in India who deserve to get into IIT hasn't increased in the last 50 years? Ofcourse, it has, and it does make sense to increase the # of IITs
    b. I don't see any sort of problem with setting up medical schools in IITs. Could you elaborate on that? Hell, most of the IITs have a Biz school. Why not medicine, which is more science than an MBA (which actually makes the technical IIT education pretty much pointless). Do you have any idea how many reasonable medical colleges are there in India? They desperately need more of it, and if the govt. chooses to use the infra of the existing IITs to set up more of them, how does that make not sense?

    • Dude just two words,…..”INFRASTRUCTURE FIRST”…..true that new IITs might reach up to the level of existing ones say after 10 years….do you even realize what will happen to the students who pass out in these 10 years??

  • 1. I am an IIT-B student myself, so you can discount that I am writing this because of some sort of frustration.
    2. The sarcasm strongly reeks of being obnoxious rather that anything else. True, board marks being considered as a criteria is stupid, and this whole thing is just a publicity stunt, but
    a. Do you seriously believe that India does NOT need more IITs? Would not they be be equal to the established IITs in the coming years? And is it not absurd to say that the fraction of students in India who deserve to get into IIT hasn't increased in the last 50 years? Ofcourse, it has, and it does make sense to increase the # of IITs
    b. I don't see any sort of problem with setting up medical schools in IITs. Could you elaborate on that? Hell, most of the IITs have a Biz school. Why not medicine, which is more science than an MBA (which actually makes the technical IIT education pretty much pointless). Do you have any idea how many reasonable medical colleges are there in India? They desperately need more of it, and if the govt. chooses to use the infra of the existing IITs to set up more of them, how does that make not sense?

    • Dude just two words,…..”INFRASTRUCTURE FIRST”…..true that new IITs might reach up to the level of existing ones say after 10 years….do you even realize what will happen to the students who pass out in these 10 years??

  • Thanks for sharing your feeling but I am seriously worried about your way of presentation. Any person can ruin your emotion on whatever you have written here by giving some sense or nonsense reason. I will say you that rather than increasing the traffic on the internet, try to give some statistics based summary. You have discussed that percentage marks and all, try to think in qualitatively and quantitative manner. You know around more than 50% (Assumption) of human in India are not leaving like human. They don't have good health, good education, or I should say no education. Some interesting facts like employability is not their in student, they are coming like gentleman in college and leaving in form of donkey. As an IITian think on removal of corruption and increase education as well as honesty. Corruption have given red mark to entire country.

  • Thanks for sharing your feeling but I am seriously worried about your way of presentation. Any person can ruin your emotion on whatever you have written here by giving some sense or nonsense reason. I will say you that rather than increasing the traffic on the internet, try to give some statistics based summary. You have discussed that percentage marks and all, try to think in qualitatively and quantitative manner. You know around more than 50% (Assumption) of human in India are not leaving like human. They don't have good health, good education, or I should say no education. Some interesting facts like employability is not their in student, they are coming like gentleman in college and leaving in form of donkey. As an IITian think on removal of corruption and increase education as well as honesty. Corruption have given red mark to entire country.

  • Love this one, great writing, but unfortunately – all in vain – you sure are earning appreciation from everyone, everyone is delighted to read this – but sure as hell it's not gonna make it to the intended addressee – do you think they even care or bother to read blogs? Forget that, do you think they're even tech savvy enough to know there is a concept called blogging?

  • Love this one, great writing, but unfortunately – all in vain – you sure are earning appreciation from everyone, everyone is delighted to read this – but sure as hell it's not gonna make it to the intended addressee – do you think they even care or bother to read blogs? Forget that, do you think they're even tech savvy enough to know there is a concept called blogging?

  • very amazing article 🙂
    loved d pretty please in the end ..hehe
    i hope kapil sibbal reads it and tries 2 change himself for the betr and stop meddling with the nation's future..!! fingers crosd…

  • bad post….it contains tonnes of issues but doesn't deal with any of them seriously….by the way…its the IITs themselves wanting to start a medical

    • Dear Samrat,

      I have pointed out that infrastructure is the issue, resolve that first n then u can start whatever, even sports management with Kalmadi as dean for all I care, but for god sakes don't compromise with the standard…

  • bad post….it contains tonnes of issues but doesn't deal with any of them seriously….by the way…its the IITs themselves wanting to start a medical

    • Dear Samrat,

      I have pointed out that infrastructure is the issue, resolve that first n then u can start whatever, even sports management with Kalmadi as dean for all I care, but for god sakes don't compromise with the standard…

  • I am sorry to say that you suffer from the same euphoria that you have criticized. All IITian take great pride in its brand name. However, I wish to know how much they have contributed back as alumini (apart from participating in 3-5 day PAN-IIT summit). It's easy to ridicule others and play on the tunes of small audience. However, it is hard for you to understand the magnanimity of issue.

    You can criticize Kapil for expansion of IIT's but you have not given any solution to problem. Probably you suffer from same syndrome/ complex that you may face as Asian in western world.

    Having a first hand experience of the system that you have described, I can tell you that if all things being equal, an average IITian is no different from good graduates of other institutions.

    To conclude it, you completely failed yourself on all those bars that you have raised against Kapil.

  • I am sorry to say that you suffer from the same euphoria that you have criticized. All IITian take great pride in its brand name. However, I wish to know how much they have contributed back as alumini (apart from participating in 3-5 day PAN-IIT summit). It's easy to ridicule others and play on the tunes of small audience. However, it is hard for you to understand the magnanimity of issue.

    You can criticize Kapil for expansion of IIT's but you have not given any solution to problem. Probably you suffer from same syndrome/ complex that you may face as Asian in western world.

    Having a first hand experience of the system that you have described, I can tell you that if all things being equal, an average IITian is no different from good graduates of other institutions.

    To conclude it, you completely failed yourself on all those bars that you have raised against Kapil.

  • Awesome post!
    Kudos to the writer.
    Amazing article with a brilliant sense of humor and sarcasm.
    Way to go!

  • Awesome post!
    Kudos to the writer.
    Amazing article with a brilliant sense of humor and sarcasm.
    Way to go!

  • Peepli Live!! IIT Live!!
    …stay in media get publicity…ruin the IITs…nobody cares for NITS, AIIMS, Agricultural Institutes, Law Schools…let them be as they are.
    Mrs. President suggested an IIT for women…pls take my suggestion too…IIT for blacks, IIT for whites, IIT for browns…Aligarh Muslim IIT, Punjab sikh IIT and many more.

  • Peepli Live!! IIT Live!!
    …stay in media get publicity…ruin the IITs…nobody cares for NITS, AIIMS, Agricultural Institutes, Law Schools…let them be as they are.
    Mrs. President suggested an IIT for women…pls take my suggestion too…IIT for blacks, IIT for whites, IIT for browns…Aligarh Muslim IIT, Punjab sikh IIT and many more.

  • very well written indeed….quite self obsessed..a bit narcisstic..tastefully sarcastic…makes IIT'S look d only thing dats right about india..i am actually a doctor (yup a product of “a gazillion things with crumbling buildings, barely graduate faculties and with lavatories with a single microscope functioning as laboratories”)..well d country does not need youth that can write a funny letter, it needs people willing to get out of their comfort zone..

    • hehe ….thanx Ashar for appreciating the writing style….i totally agree with you that country does not need youth sitting in comfort zones criticizing stuff…..but you take things step by step and have to start somewhere….you don't run unless you learn to walk….

  • really true thought by an “INDIAN”.
    INDIAN which can only be found on days of indian cricket team match….
    we have to find a way so that these bunch of 575 or so goons sitting under the Z+ security dont ruin us and the future of this country

  • really true thought by an “INDIAN”.
    INDIAN which can only be found on days of indian cricket team match….
    we have to find a way so that these bunch of 575 or so goons sitting under the Z+ security dont ruin us and the future of this country

  • hehe ….thanx Ashar for appreciating the writing style….i totally agree with you that country does not need youth sitting in comfort zones criticizing stuff…..but you take things step by step and have to start somewhere….you don't run unless you learn to walk….

    • Well I hate to say this but right since its inception, IITs have followed MIT! In the 1940s things were different. Now we are capable enough of shaping a world-class institution with such a large base of scientists, engineers and academicians.

    • Well I hate to say this but right since its inception, IITs have followed MIT! In the 1940s things were different. Now we are capable enough of shaping a world-class institution with such a large base of scientists, engineers and academicians.

  • Kapil is highlighting himself with BRAND IIT………. IITs dont need his admiration or publicity.

  • Reservation!
    The one words I hate.

    One perfect solution would be – Remove reservation for the IITs, IIMs, AIIMS, etc. but keep the reservations intact for the other NITs, state govt run colleges, etc.
    This way people from the reservation categories get more than average quality education and the standards of IITs, IIMs, AIIMS will be intact.

  • Reservation!
    The one words I hate.

    One perfect solution would be – Remove reservation for the IITs, IIMs, AIIMS, etc. but keep the reservations intact for the other NITs, state govt run colleges, etc.
    This way people from the reservation categories get more than average quality education and the standards of IITs, IIMs, AIIMS will be intact.

  • “I AM PURSUING MY medical degree from the indian institue of TECHNOLOGY” how stupid does that sound??:D

  • “I AM PURSUING MY medical degree from the indian institue of TECHNOLOGY” how stupid does that sound??:D

  • I totally agree with all of what you have said…. I am also studying in IIT Roorkee and I totally agree that we should not base our opinion of what news channel show about the ill effects of reservations and agitate people about protesting. I want to support Manoj's fact by only asking one question that in the long history of India(more then 5000 years) why is that people from lower caste have started studying only in the past 60 years. Before that there was no one besides Dr.Bhemrao Ambedkar (the father of indian constitution) was able to study beyond schooling. How come it happen that people from SC/ST are so dumb that they are not even able to do schooling people from upper class are seen in every section of the society. The only reason was that no one from lower caste was allowed to enter into the education institutions. Can you justify a guys intelligence from his caste. People from big cities are only shouting about the ill effects of reservations on society but have you ever imagined about the crores of populations living in rural India????? There still a different society exists which still doesn't favors education of the lower caste people. Even if someone from lower caste wants to go to school then he is discriminated badly and eventually he is forced to work as labour and finally no matter what is his intelligence level,.. he remains backward. One educated person can change an entire history of his family. If under so much oppression he is provided a small benefit of reservation on the basis of which he could afford education then I there is nothing wrong in that. Sure some people may be taking advantage of reservation but on the whole this society has been progressing at much faster rate in the past 60 years. Infact in the past 2decades there is a lot of improvement that has taken place in lower caste people. At last I only want to say that compare the level intelligence and GPA and everything else in life when you provide equal opportunities to all the sections of society.

  • Haha …what GEEKS…u guyz …ever seen a girl…__jao padhai karo…that's what u r worth…jst want to earn salaries…and package ke alawa to tum ko kuch aata nahi….wasting taxpayers money…we care for the whole nation …not some group of nerds who just wanna live with ther books…nd get molested during ragging,,,enjoyed it na? Kapil Sibal is doing good…IITs are meant to be brought down…nd dey will…we guys party all da time…study much MUCH lesser…nD earn as much…………….if someone wants to improve the system…instead of helping …you are coming in the way…………typical …never wanna be an IITian

  • Haha …what GEEKS…u guyz …ever seen a girl…__jao padhai karo…that's what u r worth…jst want to earn salaries…and package ke alawa to tum ko kuch aata nahi….wasting taxpayers money…we care for the whole nation …not some group of nerds who just wanna live with ther books…nd get molested during ragging,,,enjoyed it na? Kapil Sibal is doing good…IITs are meant to be brought down…nd dey will…we guys party all da time…study much MUCH lesser…nD earn as much…………….if someone wants to improve the system…instead of helping …you are coming in the way…………typical …never wanna be an IITian

  • Dear Sir, Even in NON-IITs, NOT EVEN A SINGLE ENGINEERING STUDENT HAVE FAILED AFTER 1970 in india . Upto 1970, engineering in india even in other than IITs was very very difficult task. Student had to repeat the same class on getting failed in mor e than two subjects or not clearing supplementary upto two subjects. After 1970, TERM BACKPAPER was introduced
    i.e.carry forward your uncleared papers in next class without losing year. NOW INDIA CLAIMS TO BE THIRD TECHNICAL SUPERPOWER. Which technocrats –as more than half of engineers passing from all colleges appear in several backpapers during B.E. ( Backpapers donot have any adverse effect on BE percentage nor disclosed in degree unlike MBBS ).

    Even faculty recruited is more than such engineers who appeared in backpapers during B.E. on whose shoulders , india is going to become SUPERPOWER.

  • Dear Sir, Even in NON-IITs, NOT EVEN A SINGLE ENGINEERING STUDENT HAVE FAILED AFTER 1970 in india . Upto 1970, engineering in india even in other than IITs was very very difficult task. Student had to repeat the same class on getting failed in mor e than two subjects or not clearing supplementary upto two subjects. After 1970, TERM BACKPAPER was introduced
    i.e.carry forward your uncleared papers in next class without losing year. NOW INDIA CLAIMS TO BE THIRD TECHNICAL SUPERPOWER. Which technocrats –as more than half of engineers passing from all colleges appear in several backpapers during B.E. ( Backpapers donot have any adverse effect on BE percentage nor disclosed in degree unlike MBBS ).

    Even faculty recruited is more than such engineers who appeared in backpapers during B.E. on whose shoulders , india is going to become SUPERPOWER.

  • Good Call!
    Written very well no doubt.. Don't you think its high time, youth and by youth I mean a responsible truly Indian youth, not the chocolaty face of Rahul Gandhi etc.., should step in politics instead of web publishing, liking on FB, circulating mails.. Its time to get serious man!
    or you too are afraid if all of these oldies are removed where will you and other similar sites get the matter to mock on!!!
    This is really serious man.. It has been a lot of mocking now lets get down to serious business or just sit and watch and keep blogging!
    After all this is how most of the sites are getting their traffic from..
    See I earnestly support and appreciate your call. But do you think is this the way anything will improve?
    Its about improvement and moving forward as a nation on the whole, not just 7(13) IITs, its about building a better nation and universities as a whole.. Its about revolution!
    Looking forward to hearing from you, soon..
    With sincere Regards!

  • Good Call!
    Written very well no doubt.. Don't you think its high time, youth and by youth I mean a responsible truly Indian youth, not the chocolaty face of Rahul Gandhi etc.., should step in politics instead of web publishing, liking on FB, circulating mails.. Its time to get serious man!
    or you too are afraid if all of these oldies are removed where will you and other similar sites get the matter to mock on!!!
    This is really serious man.. It has been a lot of mocking now lets get down to serious business or just sit and watch and keep blogging!
    After all this is how most of the sites are getting their traffic from..
    See I earnestly support and appreciate your call. But do you think is this the way anything will improve?
    Its about improvement and moving forward as a nation on the whole, not just 7(13) IITs, its about building a better nation and universities as a whole.. Its about revolution!
    Looking forward to hearing from you, soon..
    With sincere Regards!

  • You happen to voice our woes. Its just picture perfect, what you've written. And the candid style of writing is excellent. Someone got to makekapil sibal read this, now that he is an education minister as well. Either he's just trying to make a mark in history or certainly thinks that India = IIT.

  • You happen to voice our woes. Its just picture perfect, what you've written. And the candid style of writing is excellent. Someone got to makekapil sibal read this, now that he is an education minister as well. Either he's just trying to make a mark in history or certainly thinks that India = IIT.

  • If IIT is all about talent and innovation and creativity, how come most of these superboys(men), end up as mangers(read

  • If IIT is all about talent and innovation and creativity, how come most of these superboys(men), end up as mangers(read

  • I seriously hope this is not implemented. Considering that any 'action' on anything takes a long time to happen in this country, may this get infinitely postponed

  • mr.kapil sibbal, i find out that :To Every Action There Is No Equal And Opposite Reaction

    Why apple falls on the earth from the tree? Why it does not go high on the sky? At this scientist Newton was surprised. I also become surprised when mango falls from the tree. Why does the mango falls? According to my mother, it falls as it ripes. Then my question, why it falls when it ripes? Mother answered that when it ripes, its stem becomes loser. When mango hanged from tree , its weight mg (action) forced downwards , and the stem held the mango by the force (reaction) is equal to mg . After 1 second when it is falling , the weight of the mango was same as mg (action) , but the capturing capacity (reaction) of the stem was less than mg. so mango falls. i.e. before falling,

    The weight of the mango was mg(action) ≤ capturing capacity (reaction) of the stem. During falling ,

    the weight of the mango was mg (action)> capturing capacity (reaction)of the stem. i.e. the action and reaction during falling the mango are not equal. That proves incorrect of newton’s third law of motion. I try to understand on the other way. I hang a rope & strap 2kg weight with it , it is hanging; then hang 4kg , it is hanging. But it is fall down just when I hanging a 5kg weight in it. When there was hanging 2kg or 4kg weight, the capturing capacity of the rope was same or more than 4kg, but less than 5kg. So it is falls when 5kg is hanged.

    i.e. at 2kg or 4kg;

    The weight (action)≤ the capturing capacity (reaction) of the rope.

    At 5kg;

    The weight (action)> the capturing capacity (reaction) of the rope.

    Then again when 200gm weight is hanged in a cotton , it falls down. Here capturing capacity of cotton is less than 200gm. Then it can be said that the idea of reaction force of Newton does not depend on the quantity of using force , it depends on that object on which the force is used. Reaction is a personal characteristic of object. In particular situation a object has a limitation to react. Object can not reaction equally when standard of the action is more. Now let explain the motion of train ;

    Engine with mass m, is pulling the body with mass M(>>m) by p force. Body prevent it by force q . Now fe = acceleration of engine ; fb = acceleration of body ; From newton’s second law of motion(p=mf),

    At engine ; q=mfe => fe = q/m

    At body ; p= Mfb => fb = p/M

    According to Newton’s third law of motion action and reaction are equal. Here IqI=IpI=>ImfeI=ImfbI=>Ife/fbI=M/m=>IfeI>IfbI.

    As engine and body are connect with each other , so it never possible IfeI>IfbI.

    Therefore, IpI≠IqI.

    That means action and reaction are not equal.

    Original case, as engine & body are connected with each other so Ife I = Ifb I => Iq/mI = Ip/MI => Ip/qI = M/m => 1

    => IpI>IqI.

    So we can say as the engine create more force , it goes towards. Again if IpI<IqI, the engine should go backwards if q performs any action. As its remains fixed, it proves that q is a inactive force whose act is to stop changing of its figure, volume and situation. It is possible to increase or decrease the quantity of this q. If a bogey is cut off from the body , quantity of q decreases. If it is added, the quantity increases.

    Another explain ;

    When the wheel of goods carrying lorry gets into the mud , the wheel is moving when the lorry use force. The wheel use force on the mud but the ability of protesting of mud comparatively low. So the mud can not protest the wheel equally. Then the mud begins to move instead of moving the wheel and so the wheel slips. In this matter the action and reaction are not equal also.

    That is , it can be said that the quantity of reaction is not related to action and they are not always equal.

    Do the action and reaction act opposite direction?

    According to Vector’s law , Resultant of two equal and opposite directed force is always zero. That is meant that if action and reaction are equal opposite directed then any work is not possible. whatever the direction of the action is , object always prevents at right angles to that plane of applied point . It can not be said in every field that the action and reaction acts on opposite direction.

    After the analysis it can be said that action and reaction are neither equal nor acts from opposite direction .

    please see next reply

  • second part :
    Removing the mistakes the Newton’s third law can be written following:
    force is always used against the stability of object, if the quantity of the used force is more than the stability then with the rest force the work is performed. object always prevents at right angles to that plane of applied point and tries to change it’s direction.
    Through this law every incident can be explain comparatively more easily and logically . At first let’s explain the definition of the force of stability :-
    The Stability is the force which prevent or try to prevent the change in the shape , volume or position of the object occurred by
    Characteristics of Stability :-
    Stability always prevents the used force and tries to change its direction but it itself does not work. The quantity of stability is equal ratio of the inertia & elasticity of the object. stability depends on stability of the particular frame in which the object situated. In special condition the stability of object has a limitation and if more force is used, stability can not prevent it. The quantity of stability is possible to increase or decrease. If does not go highest position then stability is not wasted. The use of stability force never goes higher than the used force. Lets some events are explained:-
    Explanation- 1 A circular toy train is taken. As if it can move around freely its centre. When toy car is switch on , it goes forward and the railway goes backward. Suppose the car use p force and the railway prevent it with q force . When p> q then the railway prevented the p with q and q changes its direction of equal force q from p. By which force the car goes forward. With the rest force ( p – q ) the car goes backward . Here the quantity of q is stable so speed of the car does not increase though the quantity of p is increased but the railway moves faster as (p-q) increases. Again if p=q then the car goes forward with equal force of q , but ( p-q) = 0 then the railway remains fixed. If p<q, then the railway prevents p with the equal force of p from q by which force the train goes forward. Then the railway remains still as (p-q)<0. For the same reason the railway does not move backward when a lizard walks along the railway.
    Explanation- 2
    A gun of M mass use P force on a bullet of mass m(m<<M). The bullet can prevent it with force q(stability of bullet), and changes the direction of same force of q from p(q and will not move if p≤q. Here M>> m and p>>q => r >>q. According to Newton’s second law of motion (p=mf). Here
    As for gun , q=Mfg [fg = Acceleration of gun ]
    => fg = q/M
    As for bullet , (p-q)= r =mfb [fb = Acceleration of bullet]
    => fb =r/m
    Now fb/fg = (r/m)/(q/M) =Mr/mq>>1
    =>fb >> fg.
    i.e. as the acceleration of bullet is great, the bullet moves very fast.
    Explanation-3
    A man is pushing a wall with force p. the stability of the wall is F , if the quantity of prevention of the wall is R ; When P= R ≤ F then the wall changes the direction by preventing the used force. So the wall does not break. When P>R=F then the quantity of the used force is more than the stability of the wall, and so the wall can not prevent the used force. As a result the wall remains break. Am I wright ? please please help me.
    Animesh Biswas
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  • second part:

    Removing the mistakes the Newton’s third law can be written following:

    force is always used against the stability of object, if the quantity of the used force is more than the stability then with the rest force the work is performed. object always prevents at right angles to that plane of applied point and tries to change it’s direction.

    Through this law every incident can be explain comparatively more easily and logically . At first let’s explain the definition of the force of stability :-

    The Stability is the force which prevent or try to prevent the change in the shape , volume or position of the object occurred by the external fore.

    Characteristics of Stability :-

    Stability always prevents the used force and tries to change its direction but it itself does not work. The quantity of stability is equal ratio of the inertia & elasticity of the object. stability depends on stability of the particular frame in which the object situated. In special condition the stability of object has a limitation and if more force is used, stability can not prevent it. The quantity of stability is possible to increase or decrease. If does not go highest position then stability is not wasted. The use of stability force never goes higher than the used force. Lets some events are explained:-

    Explanation- 1 A circular toy train is taken. As if it can move around freely its centre. When toy car is switch on , it goes forward and the railway goes backward. Suppose the car use p force and the railway prevent it with q force . When p> q then the railway prevented the p with q and q changes its direction of equal force q from p. By which force the car goes forward. With the rest force ( p – q ) the car goes backward . Here the quantity of q is stable so speed of the car does not increase though the quantity of p is increased but the railway moves faster as (p-q) increases. Again if p=q then the car goes forward with equal force of q , but ( p-q) = 0 then the railway remains fixed. If p<q, then the railway prevents p with the equal force of p from q by which force the train goes forward. Then the railway remains still as (p-q)<0. For the same reason the railway does not move backward when a lizard walks along the railway.

    pleass see the third part.?

  • Explanation- 2

    A gun of M mass use P force on a bullet of mass m(m<<M). The bullet can prevent it with force q(stability of bullet), and changes the direction of same force of q from p(q and will not move if p≤q. Here M>> m and p>>q => r >>q. According to Newton’s second law of motion (p=mf). Here

    As for gun , q=Mfg [fg = Acceleration of gun ]

    => fg = q/M

    As for bullet , (p-q)= r =mfb [fb = Acceleration of bullet]

    => fb =r/m

    Now fb/fg = (r/m)/(q/M) =Mr/mq>>1

    =>fb >> fg.

    i.e. as the acceleration of bullet is great, the bullet moves very fast.

    Explanation-3

    A man is pushing a wall with force p. the stability of the wall is F , if the quantity of prevention of the wall is R ; When P= R ≤ F then the wall changes the direction by preventing the used force. So the wall does not break. When P>R=F then the quantity of the used force is more than the stability of the wall, and so the wall can not prevent the used force. As a result the wall remains broken. Am I wright ? please say how can I PUBLISH this?

    Animesh Biswas

    Mobile: 09126578673(india)

    E mail: atheistanimesh@gmail.com

  • third part

    xplanation- 2

    A gun of M mass use P force on a bullet of mass m(m<<M). The bullet can prevent it with force q(stability of bullet), and changes the direction of same force of q from p(q and will not move if p≤q. Here M>> m and p>>q => r >>q. According to Newton’s second law of motion (p=mf). Here

    As for gun , q=Mfg [fg = Acceleration of gun ]

    => fg = q/M

    As for bullet , (p-q)= r =mfb [fb = Acceleration of bullet]

    => fb =r/m

    Now fb/fg = (r/m)/(q/M) =Mr/mq>>1

    =>fb >> fg.

    i.e. as the acceleration of bullet is great, the bullet moves very fast.

    Explanation-3

    A man is pushing a wall with force p. the stability of the wall is F , if the quantity of prevention of the wall is R ; When P= R ≤ F then the wall changes the direction by preventing the used force. So the wall does not break. When P>R=F then the quantity of the used force is more than the stability of the wall, and so the wall can not prevent the used force. As a result the wall remains broken. Am I wright ? please say how can I publish this ?

    Animesh Biswas

    Mobile: 09126578673(india)

    E mail: atheistanimesh@gmail.com

  • Champion Stuff dude. I copy for one of the comments already posted-

    “awesome post dude!!!….very well articulated….echoed my views…hats off 2 u man!”

  • sir

    If distance courses approved by Ignou and DDE then why J&K govt. were not give job to person obtain degree from distance mode.

    example

    my friend cleared the entrance exam conducted by the jammu university with high rank but university not give admission to him because he got graduate degree from Kuvempu University by distance mode.

    IF courses obtained by distance mode is not valid then by govt. approved that courses.

    when the person not got the job then what does he/she do.

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  • sir,for getting admission in DU one has to first go through the high cut -offs and after meeting that comes the problem of quota ,(leave quota) number of seats left for the students in gen category is very less above that science students are also allowed to opt those courses whose ‘base’ is from commerce or humanity stream that’s purely wrong . if the science students want to opt for the commerce one he should change his stream in the school itself . you have made the changes in iit pattern considering class 12 weightage. and in commerce YOu are allowing science students do the same course as commerce students with no idea and basic concepts ,is that justified with the commerce students?????moreover if the students after scoring 96% in non – med stream opting for eco(h) is that correct on his part ???the child is not focused …and those who are focused and working day and night to in the required direction , a clear injustice is faced by them…

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