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Lipstick competition at IIT-Roorkee — a Guidebook on How to React to it

Before you go ahead and read my views/rants against various people, I want you to look at this news report about a lipstick competition event at IIT Roorkee’s cultural fest, (link) if you haven’t already, and form your own opinion. After this news came out, the Uttarakhand government launched an inquiry into it, and the five students were suspended. Well, rather than saying suspended, I would like to say, they were tharoored. That is, made a scapegoat like Shashi Tharoor to maintain the perceived image because the administration was too incompetent to take a stance. If you still think they were let off too easily, I propose we charge them of sedition and send them to Kashmir, to be stone-pelted till death! Now I don’t intend to advocate and defend the organizers, my views are about how different people/groups and organizers have reacted towards it:

Dear Media,
First of all, congratulations, you have mastered the art of making a mountain out of the molehill. One question though, how do you manage to separate the wheat from the chaff so well and always… ALWAYS, without fail, pick up ONLY the chaff to be showcased through your channel? What a nice portrayal of the Thomso (the name of the fest). Oh, and by the way, I might have missed the news, did you also cover the dramatics, panel discussions, personality hunts, debates, quizzes, fashion shows, workshops and a whole plethora of events happening right there? What? You didn’t even know about that, why don’t you check out the event website? Even then, you had to show this, because, you know the controversy-creating-potential this event possessed. Nice way to repeat the same frame a gazillion times to make it sound creepy! Did you see how comfortable the couples were? Where did you see obscenity in it?

Now tell me who is that unarticulated creep at the start of the YouTube clip? “अपने आप में एक अनूठा … अभ्दूत (DOOD its अद्भुत)… ब्लाह ब्लाह!!”…. Somebody tell me the meaning of this line of his: “ये जो पत्नी भी होती है, वो भी इस तरह का चाहे तो वो भी नहीं लगा सकते”. Dude, I sympathise with your wife for having you… what? I am giving low blows now about you… well how do you like the taste of your own medicine? I just have one request to the media, I hope you give the same weightage and show with the equal fervour the news of the sacking of 5 students.

Dear BJP,
You would be happy you got something to vent out your anger on and something to give you a distraction from internal party matters. Nice hullabaloo you did in front of the IIT-R, but tell me why I don’t see you making the same kind of fuss about, burning the effigies of concerned people and demanding a speedy action in the Kalmadi, Koda, Ashok Chavan (recent Adarsh Housing Colony scam in Maharashtra). Or are you happy dealing with just the trifles? Well in that case we should kiss goodbye to India’s hope of ever having a strong opposition in centre and of getting rid from Nehru-Gandhi dynasty. Moreover, you have some guts talking about morality and obscenity after what your party did in Karnatka assembly.

Dear IIT-Roorkee Administration,
Might I request you to learn some lessons from our honourable PM Manmohan Singh. Whenever in crisis, and in pressure to punish the guilty, always launch an inquiry first. That way, media and people will have something to chew on for a while, and for long term, you can always bank on the fragile memory of Indian people and huge potential of Indian politicians to generate more scandals, just so that earlier ones can be dumped. It’s a vicious circle really!

By the way Bravo! Congrats! By giving such harsh punishment to students, you have ensured that all news channels show it, and now even the people who had somehow missed it earlier, will get to see the clip. Moreover, did you also sack the professor who was the chairman of the festival? I might have missed that news article you know, people don’t post everything on twitter these days.

Dear Parents,
Parents of Students in the clip: I can’t even begin to imagine the reaction of the random relatives, who were nonexistent till now but will pop-up from somewhere just to make smart-arse judgemental remarks. Some people always look for such opportunities to rationalize their own shitty conditions, making statements like, “अरे ये देखिये मिश्राजी, ये सब होता है IIT में तो, अरे मैं तो कहता हूँ बढ़िया है हमने अपने बच्चो को ‘रामभरोसे टक्नोलोजी इंटरनेशनल प्रोफेशनल यूनिवर्सिटी’ में ही भेजा!” (Like you had an option!). Well all I can say is INGONE!

Other Unnecessarily Worried Parents: Other parents in India who are fretting about this obscenity and its adverse impacts on their wards, well, you ought to know, that in today’s time of FTV and when free porn is just a click away, it’s not going to spoil the child if he is not already spoiled. If you want to keep a check on him/her, go see his Internet History and be extra-worried if it’s clear!!

Dear Random Indian,
Dear random Indian, sitting in your bedroom, eating samosas, and passing comments on everything news channels show. Get a life! No, before that get a brain of your own, because you are the same guy who says “एकदम सही बात है भाई!” even when they debate about the need and implementation of sex education in India and now you are frowning upon this thing. You are the same guy who whistles after watching Malaika do a Munni Badnaam Hui and you are the same guy who savours all the crap TV channels throw at you in the name of Reality shows, you even relish the news by India TV with the same vigour but you will go ahead and do your obligatory frown on this issue until the next time the idiot box gives you something to frown upon.

Don’t be a self-imposed moral police is all I want to say; we have enough pain dealing with likes of Ram Sene and Shiv Sena. Clichéd and hackneyed however it may sound but I am going to remind you again that we are a land of Kamasutra. Did you people see how comfortable the couple seemed performing the task in the competition? Well, if they don’t have a problem, why do you? Get your own life. And still, if you want to do something about it, like always, let’s make a Facebook page, do a candle light (or even better somebody make a Flash based candle that we can lit on our desktop, sitting on our arse at home) but for God’s sake, don’t go around suspending 5 students over trivialities, don’t take it away from them, they have toiled hard to reach there, and deserve a bit of enjoyment — they all already do it in private, and weren’t doing it on national television this time either, until they sent their photographers.

About the author

Bijender Sheoran

I am a 23 years old Mechanical Engineer from IIT Kanpur, currently working in Noida. I like to try my hand at a diverse range of things and my interest keeps changing from time to time. I have been a part of IITK's cultural festival (Antaragni) and technical festival (Techkriti) while in college. A big movie buff and loves watching TV serials, Lost and Hustle are my favorite, reads anything and everything and getting addicted to Facebook and twitter.

614 Comments

  • well well said!
    i don't understand why the nEws 24 are making an
    issue of it! If one listen to the news with an open mind it will be clear to them the media doesn't have problem
    with it but since its happening in IIT they have to say sth. And I don't
    think there is any obscenity in it! Its like “jab miya biwi raazi to kya karega kaazi” :D

  • well well said!
    i don't understand why the nEws 24 are making an
    issue of it! If one listen to the news with an open mind it will be clear to them the media doesn't have problem
    with it but since its happening in IIT they have to say sth. And I don't
    think there is any obscenity in it! Its like “jab miya biwi raazi to kya karega kaazi” :D

  • Hi Bijendra1
    Being a student of IIT ROORKEE, i can say that you just said what we all want to say.
    By the way those 5 students, they have not been suspended from college, the authority has just removed them from thomso.
    good post!!!

  • Hi Bijendra1
    Being a student of IIT ROORKEE, i can say that you just said what we all want to say.
    By the way those 5 students, they have not been suspended from college, the authority has just removed them from thomso.
    good post!!!

  • Mr IITian, Dnt think ur the master of All.
    Even Mahatma Gandhi was not a IITian.
    Still he is Greatest of Great.
    How Many ex i should give!

    • Exactly what the author is saying dude…
      “Do what is in the benefit of all, rather than poking your nose everywhere….”

      • IIT stand because of money given by common people.
        They have the rights to know what is happening to their money.
        This is the very small thing that came out.
        Why the world ranking of IIT group is coming down! Do you know Mr IITRian.
        Because of people like you and those who involved in this incident.
        They should punish if they are not punished yet!

        • Ranking of IITs is a completely different issue … Why can't media cover the empty faculty positions in IITs, lack of research infrastructure in IITs !!! Work and fun go hand in hand. Fun makes you more focused towards work. And in my view, this event was not at all obscene.

          • This is not fun my LOL!
            Try to see with the eyes of Common people.
            For ur understanding Ranking is depend on Number of Quality Research paper and many thing.
            I am damn sure if the guys who organised this event should give prize condition is that they have to come up with International Conference Paper!!!
            What u think Mr IITRian, Do they?

        • Dude(or dudette whatever you are)
          Money: IITs do stand because of money by people, so does IISc
          Right to know: For your information, The money that was being used in the fest was not Common man's money. Students raise sponsorships on their own for these fests.
          Small thing: exactly. why so much fuss about it.
          World Ranking: because of common people (who has rights to know) who wanted atleast one IIT in every state of India and more seats in IITs and Mr HRD for granting it and last but not the least Indian researchers for not being ready to come and teach in India.
          Punishment: Yes, they should be punished for they were wrong partly and embarrassed the institute. So should be people like you, for making comments without even knowing what they were commenting about.

          • Though this event is sponsored, still ur using IIT Campus(Common People's Money right!).
            Showing truth if punishable , i am ready for that.

          • I was expecting this kind of favour, at last i got :)
            Thank You!
            I pray to God please give them something that they are missing in.

          • my pleasure but ….. still u r missing the most important point of my comment …. “Get a life” ! ….. tujhe itna bhi samajh nahi aata kya …. IISc main kaise ghus gaya be …. ya fir just maje ke IISc laga rakha hai … huahahaha !

          • I know ur none other than Mr Bijender!
            But to hide ur bad deed he is coming with different name.
            One day u will get a life lesson. This world is greatest school!

          • ok … now u r taking away my credit's and giving it to Mr. Bijendra (respect for you brother … loved reading ur post ) … and I don't like it …. !
            Plus U r still missing the point “GET A LIFE” …. !

          • This world is greates school.
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            HAHAHAHAHAH!! u stupid fuck.
            The entire fucking world loves iit. get used to it, moron.

          • Yeah, I am agree with you. But things are reversing, if you are not visible enough to experience then in near future you will get that vision, definitely!

          • U dnt know other than this! U know the law “There is equal and opposite reaction for every action”. I think u might have forgotten after consuming the seat @ IIT.

        • IDIOT ppls money is not used to organize events like thomso… we bring our own sponsors.
          mr. IIScian dont be a jackass bcoz u failed to clear JEE… IIT ranks are not coming down becoz of these incidents rather bcoz of faculty(one that u halflings provide).. MIT pupils have sex in their dorm and kiss publicly there loved ones but that doesnt degrade their rank. Assholes like you and media like to hype these news wen it is normal in other college in india too

          • But u used IIT campus right!( that is people's money). Yeah i failed IIT-JEE but i am thankful for that also otherwise i could have come across people like u. Just publish one research paper on A*S H**E. I think ur good enough in that. Surely it will get published. All the Best!

          • well Thomso pays the insti for all the bookings made on IIT campus..that too at a higher rate.
            IITR earns a hefty amount from Thomso dude…

        • First of all…these fests are sponsored by diff organizations and not by govt. or iit..nd iit is coming down cos political issues nt cos of some 3 day fest..

          • If there political which are affecting growth of IIT's one should article on that. Why Mr Bijender didnt wrote the article before on this imp topic?

          • Ok, I am degrading the Institute name. At the same time it is applicable to you as you posted such nonsense post. I think ur good writer, try to write some novel as ur imagination power is too good as i saw it in ur post.

            I think u will do better than Chetan Bhagat!

            Ok, I will explain what i want to say in simple languge. The guys which are involved in this incident should be punish to the maximum otherwise the level of cometition will increase day by day! Try to imagine, please.

            There is no need to talk privately. Post ur comment here only. Dnt just reply to my comment try to reply on to others.

          • Sorry i did spell mistake. I know ur good enough to point out!
            Para#3-Lin#3–“Cometition” should be replaced by “Competition”

          • Hilarious! As though this is the “only” mistake in all of your posts! Do some justice to your institution at least by using grade 12 English.

        • i pity on u.
          IIT may stand on money but IITians make money stand.
          n talking about world ranking , if u would know wat happens in no 1 insti, may be u ll not say such.
          n talking about your money, there are many places where your money is on stake n u dont bother

        • hahaha..u r seriosly a jerk!! u think IIT’s ranking will go down bcoz of a single event of thomso?? u think harvard n MIT r taking an oath from students 4 celibacy?? n by the way..IITs rankings is not going down..plus..dnt worry..ur money is not wasted in buying a few lipsticks!! we hav sponsorship teams..

      • Mr Bijender there is difference between private fun and fun at public place.
        IIScian are not stupid to do it in public place!
        Dnt event talk about “probably 5 IIScian”.

        • Mr. Whatever…. so doing it is not a problem….jst doing it public hampers cultural growth….in private do it with any random partner you want..

          • See Mr Anonymous,
            Liking of such obscene in private its individual matter.
            I think ur expert in Private fun.
            The image of IITian among common people is equivalent to God.
            But because of Silly guys like Mr Bijender, Mr IITRian, u and the Organiser, this image is Collapasing drastically.

          • he dude shut the fuck up.
            you dont even know what you are talking about. and IITians are not even close to gods (if there is one).so it seems from your previous post that you have some issues if not then you are plane retarded. I am not able to comprehend the fact that you are studying in an iisc. You are too good for it but there is a institution which caters to the needs of “special person” like you, if you know what i mean.
            and dude please have an open mind, oooops sorry didnt mean to offend you (you dont have anya it seems).

          • Dnt use abusive language!
            It shows how frustrated u are, the need of Special Institution is not for me its for u Fool.

          • Dude there is lot of kissing in bollywood movies these days and u dont rate it obscene… there was not kissing involved and it was just a game involving willing participants..

            Once a wise man said “You can lead a horse to water, but you can't make it drink” he meant it for jackass like u frm IISC

          • Exactly what i am trying to say u said. People assume that whatever they will see in movie is virtual and after watching they will forgot. But guys like want to do it in reality.
            What a shame!

          • Dude this is bcoz of u people who just raise us to that level n wants us to do every sacred thing a sensible citizen should.
            C'mon baby grow UP.
            Its hopeless to read such comments from atleast an indian youth.

          • such obscene?? what d hell?? seriosly..u mst hav hit ur head or something..u call this trivial thing obscene??

        • Oh.. Mr. IIScian.. you all talking not about yourself but whole IISc. I must not say that (as this can again offend you).. but I can count a no. of guys who r willing to that in your insti..

      • What is stupidness in comment by “From IIScian” ? I think ur stupid “Mr Bijender” that by mistakenly u cracked the IIT-JEE with the help of coaching boost.

    • Dude, you are a fecking idiot. Who cares what these kids do? Most of them have sex when you are not looking. So why be a hypocrite and close your eyes when they are just putting on lipstick on each other?

      Untie the tiranga on your dick and let some blood flow from your dick to your brain.

          • abe sun bhai

            1> I dont think u r from IISC…so stop using its name, we IITians hold it in high regard and u r messing with that!

            2> Get ovr ur IIT issues, there are many ppl who dont get thru IIT's, and trust me we never make a fuss abt it unless u ask for it by the kind of irritating things that you have posting my friend.

            3> abt conference and papers, u r always welcome to visit IIT s and just go through them, and you will come to know that there r more papers published than probably you can even count.(no offence..it s idiomatic)

            4> Maximum Punishment? yaar boss apni bhadaas aise nikaalega kya? dont say that u never did n e thing stupid or stuff that u r ashamed of. If u dint…then CONGRATUALTIONS dude! tuje toh BABA ban jana chahiye…tu toh farishta hai yaar….respect!

            5>In all

          • See urself in mirror. Tere jaise ko mitti mein milake BABA ban jaunga, KHUSHISE. Tu jo publication ki bat kar raha hain o shayad third class conference ke hain. For ur kind info, i was not even taking into consideration. Aur tuze main mera TUTOR ghoshit karta hu. Unko punishment to milke hi rahegi tu kitna bhi chilale.

            One more thing, Thanks for tagging me “one man army”!

          • you, sir, have the IQ of a peanut. you, sir, have COMPLETELY ruined the image i ever had of IISc.

            You, sir, should leave this discussion and let elders talk it out. Please. May god be with you. with a stick up ur arse all the time.

          • I think you changed your profession. If not then you will have great future as a PSYCHIATRIST.

            With Best Wishes!

          • I was interested in Pure Science and had plans of joining IISc at a later stage. Now, i guess, i should try getting into IITs instead…!!!!

          • unko punishment toh tera baap bhi nahi dila sakta….IITR admin has taken care that stupid fucks like u don't even get to scratch their asses..

          • wow!! i havent read all the comments completely but I see that Mr.IIScian is quite visible here….looks like guys in IISc have all the time in the world!!

      • you justify your name to the full extent!!!! only a DIRTY DOGGY will tie a tiranga around his dick!!!!!!!

        think before you post!!!!

        @ mr iitscian

    • shut up and quit making a jacka** of urself. U r obviously one of those losers who cudnt get to IIT and wentt to some shitty third rate college in the south and then after licking ur profs a** so they wud give u a reco got ur sorry a** to IISC where you will fart around for the rest of ur loser life.. screw u man quit this vendetta aginst iitians just because ur not smart enough to get there…
      The whole world knows what iitians have done
      just for reference http://www.paniitalumni.org/the-iit-alumni-impact
      Now go and stuff urself man!!

    • M. IISIAn, Why you are wasting your time posting all this stupid thing. Does this anyway relate to the situation. Utilize your time doing something great and I am proud that our IITians is doingt hat. WTF is all this, they did something very creative. I feel guilty when I see all this sitting in a country which are void of all these stuff. HAts off to IITR. A simple slogan. My Grand Mother use to say “Jab Haathi(IIT) chalta hain to kutte bhokte hain.
      Regards,
      Abhishek,

    • I agree with you IIScian.This guy is a hypocrite and it is due to such type of IIT passouts that our college gets all the backlash..for all the wrong reasons..He is just acting to be modest that he doesn't care abt the brand and all but he started this site in itself because he thought he is from IIt and how gr8 he is that everybody who is not from IIT would listen to this stupid blabber :D:)

    • Guys..Guys..Guys
      A wise man once said..Never argue with an Idiot(here IIScian and d anjaani shit)..coz ultimately they will bring you down to their own level..and give you a tough competition..coz de are more experienced at it..
      I dont noe y this loser joined an insti like IISc(Assumption) wen he had to indulge in moral policing..go join VHP, Bajrang Dal..u shall be dre king..
      And to your original comment..u myt give me numerous examples who werent IITian and were great..like mahatma gandhi n blah blah(who din have to do anything to technology etc )..blv me i can cite an equal number if not more..ppl frm IIT who conquered d world of technology and business..
      PS: Do remember to take ur pills fr insanity and impotency cure..

  • Mr IITian, Dnt think ur the master of All.
    Even Mahatma Gandhi was not a IITian.
    Still he is Greatest of Great.
    How Many ex i should give!

    • Dude, you are a fecking idiot. Who cares what these kids do? Most of them have sex when you are not looking. So why be a hypocrite and close your eyes when they are just putting on lipstick on each other?

      Untie the tiranga on your dick and let some blood flow from your dick to your brain.

          • abe sun bhai

            1> I dont think u r from IISC…so stop using its name, we IITians hold it in high regard and u r messing with that!

            2> Get ovr ur IIT issues, there are many ppl who dont get thru IIT's, and trust me we never make a fuss abt it unless u ask for it by the kind of irritating things that you have posting my friend.

            3> abt conference and papers, u r always welcome to visit IIT s and just go through them, and you will come to know that there r more papers published than probably you can even count.(no offence..it s idiomatic)

            4> Maximum Punishment? yaar boss apni bhadaas aise nikaalega kya? dont say that u never did n e thing stupid or stuff that u r ashamed of. If u dint…then CONGRATUALTIONS dude! tuje toh BABA ban jana chahiye…tu toh farishta hai yaar….respect!

            5>In all

          • See urself in mirror. Tere jaise ko mitti mein milake BABA ban jaunga, KHUSHISE. Tu jo publication ki bat kar raha hain o shayad third class conference ke hain. For ur kind info, i was not even taking into consideration. Aur tuze main mera TUTOR ghoshit karta hu. Unko punishment to milke hi rahegi tu kitna bhi chilale.

            One more thing, Thanks for tagging me “one man army”!

          • wow!! i havent read all the comments completely but I see that Mr.IIScian is quite visible here….looks like guys in IISc have all the time in the world!!

      • you justify your name to the full extent!!!! only a DIRTY DOGGY will tie a tiranga around his dick!!!!!!!

        think before you post!!!!

        @ mr iitscian

    • I agree with you IIScian.This guy is a hypocrite and it is due to such type of IIT passouts that our college gets all the backlash..for all the wrong reasons..He is just acting to be modest that he doesn't care abt the brand and all but he started this site in itself because he thought he is from IIt and how gr8 he is that everybody who is not from IIT would listen to this stupid blabber :D:)

    • Guys..Guys..Guys
      A wise man once said..Never argue with an Idiot(here IIScian and d anjaani shit)..coz ultimately they will bring you down to their own level..and give you a tough competition..coz de are more experienced at it..
      I dont noe y this loser joined an insti like IISc(Assumption) wen he had to indulge in moral policing..go join VHP, Bajrang Dal..u shall be dre king..
      And to your original comment..u myt give me numerous examples who werent IITian and were great..like mahatma gandhi n blah blah(who din have to do anything to technology etc )..blv me i can cite an equal number if not more..ppl frm IIT who conquered d world of technology and business..
      PS: Do remember to take ur pills fr insanity and impotency cure..

  • see the fuss is not about what had happened, but it for the reason ,why it was leaked out… why this has not done in the manner as all the things is going on…in hotel room,department lab,terraces,restaurants,lobby's etc….

  • IIT stand because of money given by common people.
    They have the rights to know what is happening to their money.
    This is the very small thing that came out.
    Why the world ranking of IIT group is coming down! Do you know Mr IITRian.
    Because of people like you and those who involved in this incident.
    They should punish if they are not punished yet!

    • Ranking of IITs is a completely different issue … Why can't media cover the empty faculty positions in IITs, lack of research infrastructure in IITs !!! Work and fun go hand in hand. Fun makes you more focused towards work. And in my view, this event was not at all obscene.

    • Dude(or dudette whatever you are)
      Money: IITs do stand because of money by people, so does IISc
      Right to know: For your information, The money that was being used in the fest was not Common man's money. Students raise sponsorships on their own for these fests.
      Small thing: exactly. why so much fuss about it.
      World Ranking: because of common people (who has rights to know) who wanted atleast one IIT in every state of India and more seats in IITs and Mr HRD for granting it and last but not the least Indian researchers for not being ready to come and teach in India.
      Punishment: Yes, they should be punished for they were wrong partly and embarrassed the institute. So should be people like you, for making comments without even knowing what they were commenting about.

    • IDIOT ppls money is not used to organize events like thomso… we bring our own sponsors.
      mr. IIScian dont be a jackass bcoz u failed to clear JEE… IIT ranks are not coming down becoz of these incidents rather bcoz of faculty(one that u halflings provide).. MIT pupils have sex in their dorm and kiss publicly there loved ones but that doesnt degrade their rank. Assholes like you and media like to hype these news wen it is normal in other college in india too

      • But u used IIT campus right!( that is people's money). Yeah i failed IIT-JEE but i am thankful for that also otherwise i could have come across people like u. Just publish one research paper on A*S H**E. I think ur good enough in that. Surely it will get published. All the Best!

    • First of all…these fests are sponsored by diff organizations and not by govt. or iit..nd iit is coming down cos political issues nt cos of some 3 day fest..

      • If there political which are affecting growth of IIT's one should article on that. Why Mr Bijender didnt wrote the article before on this imp topic?

    • i pity on u.
      IIT may stand on money but IITians make money stand.
      n talking about world ranking , if u would know wat happens in no 1 insti, may be u ll not say such.
      n talking about your money, there are many places where your money is on stake n u dont bother

  • Try to be in Limit!
    I understand there freedom to give speech but not so extent that u know everything .
    Try to see with eyes of society.

    • 'there' freedom?….'WHERE'???….ohh you mean their….and which/whose speech are you talking about?….moreover you have problem with people knowing everything? because your sentence above hints exactly that….see you have been telling us IITians a lot of things recently….so lemme tell you something, just to return the favour….'ARTICULATION'

    • what eyes of society fucko? Where werre your balls when there were scams all over india? And what society?
      The one that forces you to marry a fat hair bitch they chose because she has an extra phd and one less filled hole? A hole that no one chose to fill because it was so repulsive?

      Good luck jerking off to prono sites in the night, crying silently that someday you will have a girl too and lubricating your dick with your tears.

    • @IISCian: R u really at IISC? MY heart goes out for the place that admits students like you. See, dude I understand that you didnt get an admission in an IIT (neither did I) and may be one of your relatives did, who is now lauded by all your relatives and you are not; and that is where this whole anger against IITians stems from. My request to you, get over it. Get out of this inferiority complex that you are suffering from. Grow up and get a life

    • To further that, Mr. IIScian, let me enlighten you by saying that freedom of speech allows us to say what we want. Just as we are allowing you to say what you want. If you are trying to impose upon others a “limit” and assuming the role of the “mouth of the society”, then I suggest you also join politics. I am sure you will do really well.

      Regards

      The Dream Weaver

  • Try to be in Limit!
    I understand there freedom to give speech but not so extent that u know everything .
    Try to see with eyes of society.

    • 'there' freedom?….'WHERE'???….ohh you mean their….and which/whose speech are you talking about?….moreover you have problem with people knowing everything? because your sentence above hints exactly that….see you have been telling us IITians a lot of things recently….so lemme tell you something, just to return the favour….'ARTICULATION'

    • what eyes of society fucko? Where werre your balls when there were scams all over india? And what society?
      The one that forces you to marry a fat hair bitch they chose because she has an extra phd and one less filled hole? A hole that no one chose to fill because it was so repulsive?

      Good luck jerking off to prono sites in the night, crying silently that someday you will have a girl too and lubricating your dick with your tears.

    • @IISCian: R u really at IISC? MY heart goes out for the place that admits students like you. See, dude I understand that you didnt get an admission in an IIT (neither did I) and may be one of your relatives did, who is now lauded by all your relatives and you are not; and that is where this whole anger against IITians stems from. My request to you, get over it. Get out of this inferiority complex that you are suffering from. Grow up and get a life

    • To further that, Mr. IIScian, let me enlighten you by saying that freedom of speech allows us to say what we want. Just as we are allowing you to say what you want. If you are trying to impose upon others a “limit” and assuming the role of the “mouth of the society”, then I suggest you also join politics. I am sure you will do really well.

      Regards

      The Dream Weaver

  • This is not fun my LOL!
    Try to see with the eyes of Common people.
    For ur understanding Ranking is depend on Number of Quality Research paper and many thing.
    I am damn sure if the guys who organised this event should give prize condition is that they have to come up with International Conference Paper!!!
    What u think Mr IITRian, Do they?

  • Mr Bijender there is difference between private fun and fun at public place.
    IIScian are not stupid to do it in public place!
    Dnt event talk about “probably 5 IIScian”.

    • Mr. Whatever…. so doing it is not a problem….jst doing it public hampers cultural growth….in private do it with any random partner you want..

      • See Mr Anonymous,
        Liking of such obscene in private its individual matter.
        I think ur expert in Private fun.
        The image of IITian among common people is equivalent to God.
        But because of Silly guys like Mr Bijender, Mr IITRian, u and the Organiser, this image is Collapasing drastically.

        • he dude shut the fuck up.
          you dont even know what you are talking about. and IITians are not even close to gods (if there is one).so it seems from your previous post that you have some issues if not then you are plane retarded. I am not able to comprehend the fact that you are studying in an iisc. You are too good for it but there is a institution which caters to the needs of “special person” like you, if you know what i mean.
          and dude please have an open mind, oooops sorry didnt mean to offend you (you dont have anya it seems).

          • Dnt use abusive language!
            It shows how frustrated u are, the need of Special Institution is not for me its for u Fool.

          • Dude there is lot of kissing in bollywood movies these days and u dont rate it obscene… there was not kissing involved and it was just a game involving willing participants..

            Once a wise man said “You can lead a horse to water, but you can't make it drink” he meant it for jackass like u frm IISC

          • Exactly what i am trying to say u said. People assume that whatever they will see in movie is virtual and after watching they will forgot. But guys like want to do it in reality.
            What a shame!

        • Dude this is bcoz of u people who just raise us to that level n wants us to do every sacred thing a sensible citizen should.
          C'mon baby grow UP.
          Its hopeless to read such comments from atleast an indian youth.

    • Oh.. Mr. IIScian.. you all talking not about yourself but whole IISc. I must not say that (as this can again offend you).. but I can count a no. of guys who r willing to that in your insti..

  • The vision behind IIT is for the Development of Country. What does this IITian do, they will enjoy a lot when they are in IIT. After that they will go to USA to make money. Its just waste of money on so called IITian. There should be some kind of control.

    • You know only about what was shown to you… there are a lot of good things happening in IIT Roorkee… this event nothing for us… if not for this sensation…. there are many people who wouldn't even know that this event happened…

    • You are thinking USA companies are mental & they are taking us without talent and knoledge. Actually u don't know about IIT life and you are just following the media. thats why u r saying this. I will send a link to just read it out.

      • USA companies taking u based on past bright IITian student. Once they know the present situation of IIT's
        they will think other way!

        • @IIScian: man u r realli so damn frustrated with iitians…it seems some grp of iitians have raped ur sister or mother…u r forcing all of us to use dis abusive words..please send me ur email id…i wud love to talk 2 u personally…der r some craps in ur mind which u'll realise sooner or later..
          @USA companies taking u based on past bright IITian student.: “abe chutiye proper interview aur selection procedure hota hai jaane se pehle…tere baap ki company nahi hai ki aankh band karke leke jaati hai…:p

        • Mr.IIscian r u really there ..just bcoz of u couldnt made for an IIT u r saying there is nothing in IIT's. Have u ever realized about the diff between u and an IITian after the completion of his/btech and urs. think once u ll get the idea y the all MNCs wants IITians.

        • U really are such a jerk.. And do u think the recruiters in the American companies are dumb to take an IITian just coz of the reputation of IITs.. Dude, get real.. The IITians have to appear for interviews where every aspect of their personality, academic, disciplinary and moral records are checked.. U are nothing but a good-for-nothing IIscian(dont know if u really are) who has got nothing to do except cashing on the UGC grant u r getting instead of doing any meaningful research.. And u have been sick since u failed JEE and coudn’t recover from the complex ever, neither will u in future..

        • WTF!! IIScian..u think foreign companies wnt take a genius..if dey lost their virginity at 14?? dude seriosly..which age do u belong to??? stone henge?? talk about harvard n MIT..those ppl hav sex all the tym n yet its still on top..what the hell has it 2 do with an insti??

  • The vision behind IIT is for the Development of Country. What does this IITian do, they will enjoy a lot when they are in IIT. After that they will go to USA to make money. Its just waste of money on so called IITian. There should be some kind of control.

    • You know only about what was shown to you… there are a lot of good things happening in IIT Roorkee… this event nothing for us… if not for this sensation…. there are many people who wouldn't even know that this event happened…

    • You are thinking USA companies are mental & they are taking us without talent and knoledge. Actually u don't know about IIT life and you are just following the media. thats why u r saying this. I will send a link to just read it out.

      • USA companies taking u based on past bright IITian student. Once they know the present situation of IIT's
        they will think other way!

        • @IIScian: man u r realli so damn frustrated with iitians…it seems some grp of iitians have raped ur sister or mother…u r forcing all of us to use dis abusive words..please send me ur email id…i wud love to talk 2 u personally…der r some craps in ur mind which u'll realise sooner or later..
          @USA companies taking u based on past bright IITian student.: “abe chutiye proper interview aur selection procedure hota hai jaane se pehle…tere baap ki company nahi hai ki aankh band karke leke jaati hai…:p

        • Mr.IIscian r u really there ..just bcoz of u couldnt made for an IIT u r saying there is nothing in IIT's. Have u ever realized about the diff between u and an IITian after the completion of his/btech and urs. think once u ll get the idea y the all MNCs wants IITians.

  • What is stupidness in comment by “From IIScian” ? I think ur stupid “Mr Bijender” that by mistakenly u cracked the IIT-JEE with the help of coaching boost.

    • for the record, there are countries which do NOT allow news like this to be printed. hence, newspapers only have good news. its like an ostrich. i'm sure u wont get the analogy, but its way better than a pollutant media.

      • u think urself to be some self proclaimed know it all having opinions about everything that is happening around…U arrogant hypocrite…u don't shit abt nything yet u keep on blabbering..am sure u won't get it because to get it u need to have a little bit of gray stuff in between ur ears..and please stop giving these stupid anlogies :P :D

  • xcellent post dude …everything covered except for baba ramdev i think u shuldve added him inur list too :P ..other than that …just genius …n precisely what was on my mind…

  • xcellent post dude …everything covered except for baba ramdev i think u shuldve added him inur list too :P ..other than that …just genius …n precisely what was on my mind…

  • Though this event is sponsored, still ur using IIT Campus(Common People's Money right!).
    Showing truth if punishable , i am ready for that.

  • Awesome Post..! Standing Ovation to you..!! i hope everyone reads it and have a speedy recovery..!! Indian Media , politicians, and all people saying “Hai raam, kya haalat hai IITs ki”… GET WELL SOON..!!!

  • Nice post Bijender. People in our country are growing hypocrites day by day. They have double standards for everything. Toward others they act as moral police, but when it come to themselves they don't think twice before acting as pigs.
    I always used to frown upon news channels for the petty news that they show, but it was when they showed something related to my own college, that I actually realized the gravity of the bad situation that Indian media is in.
    To those who are saying things about IITians, I want to say that you don't have to remind us of our responsibilities. We know them and there are more chances of our fulfilling them satisfactorily than you yours. What wrong is there if students want to enjoy for a moment or two? There was no obscenity involved. And the politicians should first look after their own sons who go around raping poor girls and their daughters who run away with local dudes.

  • Nice post Bijender. People in our country are growing hypocrites day by day. They have double standards for everything. Toward others they act as moral police, but when it come to themselves they don't think twice before acting as pigs.
    I always used to frown upon news channels for the petty news that they show, but it was when they showed something related to my own college, that I actually realized the gravity of the bad situation that Indian media is in.
    To those who are saying things about IITians, I want to say that you don't have to remind us of our responsibilities. We know them and there are more chances of our fulfilling them satisfactorily than you yours. What wrong is there if students want to enjoy for a moment or two? There was no obscenity involved. And the politicians should first look after their own sons who go around raping poor girls and their daughters who run away with local dudes.

  • :D… ( I seriously mean it) …you know people have started taking U -turn on this issue once BJP/ABVP entered into the darama.

    • Hats Off dude….. you have portrayed the IITians part (or rather I should say today's youth ) very well. These People are just jealous coz they are unable to get themselves and their children in to a reputed college. Another thing people are talking on this issue- “Indian culture vs Western culture”. Now who says western culture is not as good as any other culture? See we love our culture and believe it to be the best(but then every country feels the same way ) but does Indian culture teaches you to disrespect someone Else's culture(this is globalization era)?Finally these students are not “bachche” (as the news channels addressing them), they are grown adults, they know what they are doing, and they are not harming anyone and getting a few moments of fun and enjoyment out of hectic curricular schedule is not a sin. See people should take these things as personality development activities and pay no concerns to any idiotic news or any so called and self acclaimed dharm-gurus. To News channels and offenders —live our own life and let others live their own.

      • @Tabesh…dude I am an IIT alumnus. So stop that non- IIT / IIT divide. I am not sure if that lipstic episode was tribute to western culture. And the reaction that the act is not

        • Although you raise a pertinent point in a clear and articulate way, I would have to disagree on a few points there. First, the portrayal of this incident was far from decent. The same clip shown in an endless loop and the accompanying sensationalist commentary had a clear purpose of moulding mass opinion in a certain direction. In their bid to be as sensationalist as possible, the media did not even blur the faces of the people concerned, opening them to shame and ridicule they certainly do not deserve. This practice was far more indecent than the actual incident. Second, if any parent thinks that their ward will get through college squeaky clean and be the paragon of purity till they marry said ward off, they are naive and deserve to have their eyes open in this jarring fashion. Again, but for the over-zealous media, this category of parents could have continued in their state of blissful ignorant existence. Thirdly, a lot of good research goes on in the IITs, a lot of it done by undergraduates. The shame is that none of it makes it to prime time television, unlike these issues, because positive reporting never generated TRPs and ad-revenue. Fourthly, it is stupid to condone the IITians' actions. They were clearly in the wrong, and anybody defending them should take a long hard look at themselves, IITian or not. But the action of the media is more deplorable than the actions of the organizers of the controversial event. Last, not that it should matter, but I am an IITD alumnus.

          • @ Abhi ……Decency can be felt when female reporter stopped male reporter before he could comment any rubbish on the incident. In your first argument you accepted the fact that the incident was shameful (“the media did not even blur the faces of the people concerned, opening them to shame they certainly do not deserve”). If they don't deserve that why running it on TV is termed as 'opening them to shame” . Images are made blurred in sex-scandals or in heinous crime cases :) . I agree with your point about media, it has gone mad. On your second point, we still have a long way to go to degrade ourselves, when a daughter or son will tell her/his parents that s/he has lost virginity. “Dost sharm aankhon ki hoti hai”. On part of research, please check out other equally good colleges in the world, they publish more research papers than what our IITs collectively do. Although JEE is the world's toughest exam, IITs don't feature in top universities' list, except for one or two instances. And all the time one reason is given, less number of research papers. Let's stop this now, there are many areas to concentrate on. Incidence like this will set wrong precedence, hence should be avoided in future.

          • Manua, it seems we have not watched the same video. The footage I saw had the reporter giving sizzling commentary, complete with sensationalist hyperbole, as they showed that same tape on infinite loop. If you feel the almost voyeuristic commentary wasn't indecent, we don't have a discussion here. Second, images are blurred when the sensitivities of people can be hurt. You blur politicos and film stars having their behind the scenes sex romps, you blur the faces of pimps and models caught in prostitution rings, and yet you choose not to blur these average Joe students, tainting them for life. We ask the students to show maturity, we don't ask the media to exhibit any, is that your take? Third, I don't ask students to go to their parents with the news of their latest sexcapade, I ask parents to keep their expectations realistic and accept that their ward is bound to 'experiment'. Do not deliberately misinterpret me. And last, is research only newsworthy when you produce a glut of research papers? I have seen a lot of very good and innovative technology, which is oriented toward our nation and its unique demands, churned out by IITians. And all the column space they get, if any, is some obsecure mention in the middle pages of the local daily, hidden between rental and matrimonial adverts. Stopping indecency is fine, but being mature about what you see is also needed.

      • @Tapesh… First of all one should keep one point in mind that India and other western countries are different. The kind of diversity which you find in India cant be found anywhere else. Major religion for that matter in most of the western countries in Christianity and also the official religion in most of the countries, so they have an easy access to a particular kind of activity to which their citizens wont disagree. But India doesnt have any official religion, nor does it can promote any religion. It has to keep into mind the needs and demands of all the religions of the country otherwise there would not be a well ordered society.

        You are obviously correct in your saying that students at IIT are adults and not children but FREEDOM SHOULD BE ACCOMPANIED WITH RESPONSIBILITY. I meant to say that as a citizen of this country you are responsible to other citizens also if you are doing something which is not acceptable in Indian society or in short your freedom ends where you starts

        • DID ny of u even come to kno that there was a lesbian kiss ON RAMP in the fashion show at the iit d fest this yr
          ???? …..NO…… do u think it matters? FUCK NO!!

  • :D… ( I seriously mean it) …you know people have started taking U -turn on this issue once BJP/ABVP entered into the darama.

  • Really good article Bijender … quite sums up on how different sections have (badly) reacted to the issue.
    There is one catch, although (according to me): ” If the participants of (any) act are truly comfortable performing it (in public), what problem do you have ? ” this question is not a universal rhetoric. (Because if it were, we can stretch it to any imaginably bad act. Like, I can argue the same for ” Mass violence in public, or a public roadside orgy, etc”). Like somebody said, try to think of it from the point of view of the society. There (sadly) are limits to this freedom … and the entire issue is, that all of us do not agree upon common limits.

    If we feel that there was nothing seriously wrong in what the students did, we should also understand that there is nothing seriously wrong in how BJP & other so-called-orthodox people reacted to it. Ah, but I do agree … that (our biased) media portrayed only one side (as it always does).

    So, overall, let me suggest that you also address all IITians (infact anyone who feels that the entire society is against them) on how to react to this issue, and what points to keep in mind before planning such a (eye-raising) event. Even your article is a part of 'media' and so, it should portray all sides, don't you think so ? That's all.

    Btw,
    ” go see his Internet History and be extra-worried if it’s clear!! ”
    Liked this !!! :-)

  • Really good article Bijender … quite sums up on how different sections have (badly) reacted to the issue.
    There is one catch, although (according to me): ” If the participants of (any) act are truly comfortable performing it (in public), what problem do you have ? ” this question is not a universal rhetoric. (Because if it were, we can stretch it to any imaginably bad act. Like, I can argue the same for ” Mass violence in public, or a public roadside orgy, etc”). Like somebody said, try to think of it from the point of view of the society. There (sadly) are limits to this freedom … and the entire issue is, that all of us do not agree upon common limits.

    If we feel that there was nothing seriously wrong in what the students did, we should also understand that there is nothing seriously wrong in how BJP & other so-called-orthodox people reacted to it. Ah, but I do agree … that (our biased) media portrayed only one side (as it always does).

    So, overall, let me suggest that you also address all IITians (infact anyone who feels that the entire society is against them) on how to react to this issue, and what points to keep in mind before planning such a (eye-raising) event. Even your article is a part of 'media' and so, it should portray all sides, don't you think so ? That's all.

    Btw,
    ” go see his Internet History and be extra-worried if it’s clear!! ”
    Liked this !!! :-)

  • If the Students are really suspended, then the IIT Roorkee administration has totally gone berserk. Faculty associated with Thomso are given the list of all the events conducted and if they did not raise a brow to the event, why to held the students responsible for all this. This was carried under supervision of Faculty members. Why are the Faculty Members not suspended.

    Did someone realize that the career of these students might be ruined or did anyone realize the plight of those girls whose video were publicly telecasted thru out India. How much pain, grief and humiliation they might be going thru. Who is responsible if some of these students commit suicide, will Media cover that as well.

    Accept this that our society is a HYPOCRITE. We just need scapegoats. The roorkee administration who is suspending the students should look at their past and they will fine some incidents when the faculty did so many humiliating activities which are 100 times indecent than this lipstick incident.

    – A IIT Roorkee Alumini

  • If the Students are really suspended, then the IIT Roorkee administration has totally gone berserk. Faculty associated with Thomso are given the list of all the events conducted and if they did not raise a brow to the event, why to held the students responsible for all this. This was carried under supervision of Faculty members. Why are the Faculty Members not suspended.

    Did someone realize that the career of these students might be ruined or did anyone realize the plight of those girls whose video were publicly telecasted thru out India. How much pain, grief and humiliation they might be going thru. Who is responsible if some of these students commit suicide, will Media cover that as well.

    Accept this that our society is a HYPOCRITE. We just need scapegoats. The roorkee administration who is suspending the students should look at their past and they will fine some incidents when the faculty did so many humiliating activities which are 100 times indecent than this lipstick incident.

    – A IIT Roorkee Alumini

  • A great post indeed. very true and addresses just the issues that need to be. certain smart people (read the controversial IIScian and Anjani) might fail to see this, but then, heck, we are here to talk to those who have the ability to accept another's point of view, disagree perhaps, but not qualify the opposite view as irrelevant. Mr. Bijender, enlightening, to say the least. and I agree with someone from the previous posts, this, indeed is newspaper/magazine material. After all, this is the voice of the youth, one of the many that has spoken. a perfect blend, the right people, the right language and the touch of sarcasm to go with it. savoured till the end!

  • A great post indeed. very true and addresses just the issues that need to be. certain smart people (read the controversial IIScian and Anjani) might fail to see this, but then, heck, we are here to talk to those who have the ability to accept another's point of view, disagree perhaps, but not qualify the opposite view as irrelevant. Mr. Bijender, enlightening, to say the least. and I agree with someone from the previous posts, this, indeed is newspaper/magazine material. After all, this is the voice of the youth, one of the many that has spoken. a perfect blend, the right people, the right language and the touch of sarcasm to go with it. savoured till the end!

  • @Tabesh…dude I am an IIT alumnus. So stop that non- IIT / IIT divide. I am not sure if that lipstic episode was tribute to western culture. And the reaction that the act is not

    • Although you raise a pertinent point in a clear and articulate way, I would have to disagree on a few points there. First, the portrayal of this incident was far from decent. The same clip shown in an endless loop and the accompanying sensationalist commentary had a clear purpose of moulding mass opinion in a certain direction. In their bid to be as sensationalist as possible, the media did not even blur the faces of the people concerned, opening them to shame and ridicule they certainly do not deserve. This practice was far more indecent than the actual incident. Second, if any parent thinks that their ward will get through college squeaky clean and be the paragon of purity till they marry said ward off, they are naive and deserve to have their eyes open in this jarring fashion. Again, but for the over-zealous media, this category of parents could have continued in their state of blissful ignorant existence. Thirdly, a lot of good research goes on in the IITs, a lot of it done by undergraduates. The shame is that none of it makes it to prime time television, unlike these issues, because positive reporting never generated TRPs and ad-revenue. Fourthly, it is stupid to condone the IITians' actions. They were clearly in the wrong, and anybody defending them should take a long hard look at themselves, IITian or not. But the action of the media is more deplorable than the actions of the organizers of the controversial event. Last, not that it should matter, but I am an IITD alumnus.

  • Very Well Said…
    youth has widen there domain of thinking…but media always busy in criticizing the society on such issues…
    The CWG ,IIT event and a lot more are the examples.

  • Hi writer.. Do you read the news properly and regularly? The BJP is indeed asking and protesting for all those names that you have mentioned. If still after all the protests the ruling govt doesn't take any action, it is govt' fault not BJP's. Also, do u know what happened in Karnataka? do u really read the news? Do you know what the congress and the JDS did? do u know what had happened in Goa and Jharkhand assembly?

    I agree that BJP should not have come in this matter, but at same time IITR should maintain decency.. and also, just to make your post interesting do not post any random thing about BJP without knowing anything..

    Also, for those saying Miya Biwi raaji to kya karega kaaji.. I agree these are individual's decisions.. but suppose, if your sister have her own decision like this, would u let her do this?

    • To the last segment of your observations, I would like to say that, yes, if it were my sister, I agree I would have a fair possibility of being worried about her. But, if I believe in doing what I want to, I would let others do what they want as well, and that includes my sister. And the incident that happened was, in my opinion, not meant to be indecent, and purely out of the willingness of the participants. Perhaps kind sir, you do believe in identifying with norms, and hence you also wish those around you to do so. I am, on a personal level, not in favour of PDA, but that doesn't mean I go out on the streets with a will to punish all those who do not have qualms about it. It is the age of tolerance, the age of freedom of thought and expression. It is also the age of accepting changes as they come.

      • If you are really worried about politics then join the politics after ur UG to change it. I know it is not possible for you.

  • Hi writer.. Do you read the news properly and regularly? The BJP is indeed asking and protesting for all those names that you have mentioned. If still after all the protests the ruling govt doesn't take any action, it is govt' fault not BJP's. Also, do u know what happened in Karnataka? do u really read the news? Do you know what the congress and the JDS did? do u know what had happened in Goa and Jharkhand assembly?

    I agree that BJP should not have come in this matter, but at same time IITR should maintain decency.. and also, just to make your post interesting do not post any random thing about BJP without knowing anything..

    Also, for those saying Miya Biwi raaji to kya karega kaaji.. I agree these are individual's decisions.. but suppose, if your sister have her own decision like this, would u let her do this?

    • To the last segment of your observations, I would like to say that, yes, if it were my sister, I agree I would have a fair possibility of being worried about her. But, if I believe in doing what I want to, I would let others do what they want as well, and that includes my sister. And the incident that happened was, in my opinion, not meant to be indecent, and purely out of the willingness of the participants. Perhaps kind sir, you do believe in identifying with norms, and hence you also wish those around you to do so. I am, on a personal level, not in favour of PDA, but that doesn't mean I go out on the streets with a will to punish all those who do not have qualms about it. It is the age of tolerance, the age of freedom of thought and expression. It is also the age of accepting changes as they come.

      • If you are really worried about politics then join the politics after ur UG to change it. I know it is not possible for you.

  • Dudu , u r really great at writing . kudos. ” Mazzaa aa gaya yaar”.Great article to read ! Explanations in most humorous way .

  • Dudu , u r really great at writing . kudos. ” Mazzaa aa gaya yaar”.Great article to read ! Explanations in most humorous way .

  • great now i'm a great fan of yours…………….Pharaoh……student IIT Roorkee(the lucky person who witnessed the competition very closely)…………But I wanted to add a thing that when the event was happening on the hobbies park there is a park just adjacent to the park called ug park on which dump(person who can't hear) students were performing s=a dance which was being completely ignored by dear media…………

  • great now i'm a great fan of yours…………….Pharaoh……student IIT Roorkee(the lucky person who witnessed the competition very closely)…………But I wanted to add a thing that when the event was happening on the hobbies park there is a park just adjacent to the park called ug park on which dump(person who can't hear) students were performing s=a dance which was being completely ignored by dear media…………

  • its kind of sad………its just a bite for them. And it makes you wonder, does the media understand the power it has? and if it does, is it aware of the grave implications of making an issue out of events such as these?? will a country with viewpoints as misleading as those shown by this media ever really GROW??

  • its kind of sad………its just a bite for them. And it makes you wonder, does the media understand the power it has? and if it does, is it aware of the grave implications of making an issue out of events such as these?? will a country with viewpoints as misleading as those shown by this media ever really GROW??

  • kamasutra doesn't say do ur personal things in public, in view of children, it say what a husband-wife should do in their bedroom. so cut the crap about this being the land of kamasutra.
    about the media n political parties n administration, i completely agree with u. the hype is uncalled for, the punishment a bit too harsh.
    but about the obscenity point of it – its not obscene, yeh. compared to modern films, porn, FTV and all stuff, this is nothing. but what a slightly intelligent common man (or children and students) understands is – these are superficial things, which don't happen in real life or happen rarely, or happen in celebrity level upper class. so i think in 'THE' reality, we shud restrain ourselves from giving any small hint in the wrong direction.

  • kamasutra doesn't say do ur personal things in public, in view of children, it say what a husband-wife should do in their bedroom. so cut the crap about this being the land of kamasutra.
    about the media n political parties n administration, i completely agree with u. the hype is uncalled for, the punishment a bit too harsh.
    but about the obscenity point of it – its not obscene, yeh. compared to modern films, porn, FTV and all stuff, this is nothing. but what a slightly intelligent common man (or children and students) understands is – these are superficial things, which don't happen in real life or happen rarely, or happen in celebrity level upper class. so i think in 'THE' reality, we shud restrain ourselves from giving any small hint in the wrong direction.

  • I am a student of IIT Roorkee and I feel that there was nothing wrong about whatever was going on in the above event , and about the bloody dumb indian media, why don't you raise the real issues of IITR.
    1. The internet problem here.
    2. The teacher student ratio. (computer science branch have more than 500 students and 6 professors).
    3. The quality of food at IITR.

    Moreover I feel that the dean and the director should have supported the students by saying that there was nothing illegal and obscene in whatever was going on the event , instead of going down under the pressure of some damn communal political party.
    And about the ABVP members protesting outside the campus : Tell them that they are not inside the campus because they did not deserve to be here and if they think that they are the guardians of our culture and tradition then I would like to remind them that they are nothing more than some goons affiliated to some political party.
    Media if you want to raise some issues then please raise some real issues to improve the quality of education here.

      • Like, Thumbs up to you..The place where I study was also in the limelight a few months ago for the wrong reasons. Nothing country wide, yet, in and around the city people must have heard about it. But nobody talks about the other problems. Media has become all about “Breaking News” instead of being just plain and simple, good-old reporting. Whatever gets them the money/viewers/readers.

  • I am a student of IIT Roorkee and I feel that there was nothing wrong about whatever was going on in the above event , and about the bloody dumb indian media, why don't you raise the real issues of IITR.
    1. The internet problem here.
    2. The teacher student ratio. (computer science branch have more than 500 students and 6 professors).
    3. The quality of food at IITR.

    Moreover I feel that the dean and the director should have supported the students by saying that there was nothing illegal and obscene in whatever was going on the event , instead of going down under the pressure of some damn communal political party.
    And about the ABVP members protesting outside the campus : Tell them that they are not inside the campus because they did not deserve to be here and if they think that they are the guardians of our culture and tradition then I would like to remind them that they are nothing more than some goons affiliated to some political party.
    Media if you want to raise some issues then please raise some real issues to improve the quality of education here.

  • dude being a student of IIT ROORKEE i wanted to say that you gave mouth to all our thoughts…..you kicked ass…..and while we are at it….why dont we reveal to the world the rampant corruption in the professors who are so adept at sacking students without looking at their own flaws…..a lage amount of money which we get in sponsorships or which is to be alloted to us through the institute

  • dude being a student of IIT ROORKEE i wanted to say that you gave mouth to all our thoughts…..you kicked ass…..and while we are at it….why dont we reveal to the world the rampant corruption in the professors who are so adept at sacking students without looking at their own flaws…..a lage amount of money which we get in sponsorships or which is to be alloted to us through the institute

  • truly said man…it was mistake but doesn't mean that media should make this as a breaking news to make money…media is doing

  • truly said man…it was mistake but doesn't mean that media should make this as a breaking news to make money…media is doing

  • No wonder dance pe chance mar le was such a hit! These bookworms slog and get into the institutes and after admission, feeling secured about their futures, want to browse ways to be men. But what a pathetic way to start. Enterprising Indians, there is great opportunity for dating schools in India, go out and grab it, with both hand.

  • No wonder dance pe chance mar le was such a hit! These bookworms slog and get into the institutes and after admission, feeling secured about their futures, want to browse ways to be men. But what a pathetic way to start. Enterprising Indians, there is great opportunity for dating schools in India, go out and grab it, with both hand.

      • Ok, I am degrading the Institute name. At the same time it is applicable to you as you posted such nonsense post. I think ur good writer, try to write some novel as ur imagination power is too good as i saw it in ur post.

        I think u will do better than Chetan Bhagat!

        Ok, I will explain what i want to say in simple languge. The guys which are involved in this incident should be punish to the maximum otherwise the level of cometition will increase day by day! Try to imagine, please.

        There is no need to talk privately. Post ur comment here only. Dnt just reply to my comment try to reply on to others.

        • Sorry i did spell mistake. I know ur good enough to point out!
          Para#3-Lin#3–“Cometition” should be replaced by “Competition”

          • Hilarious! As though this is the “only” mistake in all of your posts! Do some justice to your institution at least by using grade 12 English.

  • This whole media coverage and suspending students thing just raised one question in front of us, “Are we still exhibiting the right to freedom?”
    The world is changing and why don't people just accept the change instead of forming a wall in front of those who try to change!!!

    And for those speaking for the society: society my s***, this is the same society who never come to help anyone when someone needs it, eg. the public rape scene of Delhi.
    This is the same society that sentenced solitary confinement to Galileo just because he said that earth revolves round the sun.
    So its of no use to view ourselves from the view of society, otherwise you'll be imprisoned in your own thoughts and would put an end to your creative potentials just because society never likes changes but you have to adopt to the changes or otherwise they pile up to create a revolution.

    • Agreed. To the core.

      The hypocrisies as they exist in our society have been prevalent forever. And even though suppose there are 3 out of 10 people in the youth now who probably think differently, the other 7 are still conservative, and can bog down the “others” with sheer numbers.

  • Like, Thumbs up to you..The place where I study was also in the limelight a few months ago for the wrong reasons. Nothing country wide, yet, in and around the city people must have heard about it. But nobody talks about the other problems. Media has become all about “Breaking News” instead of being just plain and simple, good-old reporting. Whatever gets them the money/viewers/readers.

  • Agreed. To the core.

    The hypocrisies as they exist in our society have been prevalent forever. And even though suppose there are 3 out of 10 people in the youth now who probably think differently, the other 7 are still conservative, and can bog down the “others” with sheer numbers.

  • With all due respect I have to disagree with the comments raised by you. It is always irrational to refer to other things while you are talking about something else, it shows a clear fallacy in your arguments which is obviously a deviation from the subject matter. Referring to TV Channels and for that matter to the song “Munni Badaam Hui”, dude its their profession and they are supposed to do such things which are acceptable in our Indian Society, it is a part of their work. But are students at a institution like Indian Institute of technology supposed to such things. As correctly said by someone above why do parents send their children to an institution like IIT, anyone would answer it to be for good future. What would you have a prudent citizen would have thought had he have seen his son/daughter doing this in such a reputed institution? I think you know that answer, no need to explain that further. India is a very different case in

  • With all due respect I have to disagree with the comments raised by you. It is always irrational to refer to other things while you are talking about something else, it shows a clear fallacy in your arguments which is obviously a deviation from the subject matter. Referring to TV Channels and for that matter to the song “Munni Badaam Hui”, dude its their profession and they are supposed to do such things which are acceptable in our Indian Society, it is a part of their work. But are students at a institution like Indian Institute of technology supposed to such things. As correctly said by someone above why do parents send their children to an institution like IIT, anyone would answer it to be for good future. What would you have a prudent citizen would have thought had he have seen his son/daughter doing this in such a reputed institution? I think you know that answer, no need to explain that further. India is a very different case in

    • Nice and composed reply. We should not make it ego issue. If activities like this were ignored, it would set wrong precedence. We should respect our culture and values. I agree that media and political parties have misused it, but the act was not good either. Open open open….kitna yaar..bathroom/ bedroom bhi bahar le aayoge kya?

  • well its rightly said… Those who talk about culture & our “Sanskriti” and shouting, why don't you shout when over exposed scenes are shown in movies, what happens to your so called “Sanskriti-Prem” at that time??? where were you all when DPS clip was released? media always used to cater some masala sort of things.. it had nothing to shows after Ayodhya verdict, now this will go on for few weeks and by then they would have some other “masala” ready to cater the people.

  • well its rightly said… Those who talk about culture & our “Sanskriti” and shouting, why don't you shout when over exposed scenes are shown in movies, what happens to your so called “Sanskriti-Prem” at that time??? where were you all when DPS clip was released? media always used to cater some masala sort of things.. it had nothing to shows after Ayodhya verdict, now this will go on for few weeks and by then they would have some other “masala” ready to cater the people.

  • @Tapesh… First of all one should keep one point in mind that India and other western countries are different. The kind of diversity which you find in India cant be found anywhere else. Major religion for that matter in most of the western countries in Christianity and also the official religion in most of the countries, so they have an easy access to a particular kind of activity to which their citizens wont disagree. But India doesnt have any official religion, nor does it can promote any religion. It has to keep into mind the needs and demands of all the religions of the country otherwise there would not be a well ordered society.

    You are obviously correct in your saying that students at IIT are adults and not children but FREEDOM SHOULD BE ACCOMPANIED WITH RESPONSIBILITY. I meant to say that as a citizen of this country you are responsible to other citizens also if you are doing something which is not acceptable in Indian society or in short your freedom ends where you starts

    • DID ny of u even come to kno that there was a lesbian kiss ON RAMP in the fashion show at the iit d fest this yr
      ???? …..NO…… do u think it matters? FUCK NO!!

  • @NLU Student: Dude I start my article by saying that I am not defending the organizers, so are the people from IIT Roorkee sayng that maybe they made a mistake, look at this video:&nbsp <a href="http:// <a href="http:// ;http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Vb2lWWBiErc&feature=player_embedded“” target=”_blank” rel=”nofollow”> <a href="http://;http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Vb2lWWBiErc&feature=player_embedded&quot;” target=”_blank”>;http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Vb2lWWBiErc&feature=player_embedded“ target=”_blank”> <a href="http:// <a href="http://;http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Vb2lWWBiErc&feature=player_embedded;http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Vb2lWWBiErc&feature=player_embedded</a rel=”nofollow”>” target=”_blank”> <a href="http://;http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Vb2lWWBiErc&feature=player_embedded” target=”_blank”>;http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Vb2lWWBiErc&feature=player_embedded

    But see your hypocrisy here, you are able to overlook the mistake of media by saying their contribution to society cannot be neglected, so lets give them free-passes once-in-while……so is true for IITians, we have contributed to society immensely as well.

    Forget everything else, going by your argument, won't you say, they organized hundreds of other better events during the 4 say festival, so this small, insignificant competition, which many people, even in IITR were not aware of until the news came out; can be ignored.

    • @Bijender – See, there is no doubt abt the contribution of the IITs in this country, whether it be Infosys or some other work. But the thing is that if a good institution does something which is not acceptable in the eyes of a prudent person, it would surely get

  • Ohh hello again….I would be surprised if I don't see your comment somewhere….how abt u give me ur number and I inform you when I publish my next article….on second thought, u would probably keep refreshing to know that

  • Very nice article dude but in my opinion its not exactly the media which is the culprit. Media, just like cinema, shows whatever public wants to see. Why exactly the public wants to see this stuff? Because they have nothing else to do. Why don't have anything else to do? Because they are too contended with their current life. Why are they contended with their current life and do not pursue improving it? Because our flawed education system doesn't allow us to think creatively.
    So in my opinion, educational reforms are the only key to the current mess. We need maximum spending on education, everything else should take a back-seat. Moreover, age-old methods of education should be replaced with Indianised versions of innovative methods currently being adopted in some Western countries.

  • Very nice article dude but in my opinion its not exactly the media which is the culprit. Media, just like cinema, shows whatever public wants to see. Why exactly the public wants to see this stuff? Because they have nothing else to do. Why don't have anything else to do? Because they are too contended with their current life. Why are they contended with their current life and do not pursue improving it? Because our flawed education system doesn't allow us to think creatively.
    So in my opinion, educational reforms are the only key to the current mess. We need maximum spending on education, everything else should take a back-seat. Moreover, age-old methods of education should be replaced with Indianised versions of innovative methods currently being adopted in some Western countries.

  • There seems to be no problem to anyone when REAL obscene scenes are shown on shows like big boss, even the comedy shows are not far away .people enjoys those shows with their family.
    event was organised for college students and no 1 has objection there,it was just a game and footage itself shows no one was uncomfortable ,act was not imposed on the performers they all came by their wish. organisers were not really aware of such naroow minded people and association waiting for some news to gain some attention.
    secondly i wud like to say to those who r saying y dnt u perform it in ur bathroom,rooms.
    look sir its an event not a tryst , and there is nothing so wrong in it.
    all dese is happening bcoz people have paid much attention to it otherwise these things are very common in DU and other places of delhi.
    media never shows achievement of iitr , hardwork of students are never praised by media bcoz dat wud not create a hue and cry ,and TRP will not increase. but they have to show negative things to slander iitians image.

  • Dear Writer get me ur sister, mother, wife and i will put the lipstick in the same and then give me back up by this type of article!!!!!! F*** u………dont u understand whome they r F****ing??????? our own culture at cultural event…….shut ur mouth and sit back if u cant raise ur voice, dont tell Indian how to celebrate collage festivalsssssss…

    • Dude Ramesh…..first of learn to make a point. Someone wise once told me, “In an argument use strong points and polite words rather than weak points and strong words”. If it still doesn't get in your mind, I am not a saint and can repay u in the same coin and perhaps do a thousand times better job than you can ever think.

      Now, participants in the festival were not going around, grabbing random girls and putting lipsticks on their faces. The were couples who consensually participated. I don't even know why I am trying to explain this to you, because you seem a narrow-minded cultural bigot. Join Ram Sene I suggest, I see a good

  • Dear Writer get me ur sister, mother, wife and i will put the lipstick in the same and then give me back up by this type of article!!!!!! F*** u………dont u understand whome they r F****ing??????? our own culture at cultural event…….shut ur mouth and sit back if u cant raise ur voice, dont tell Indian how to celebrate collage festivalsssssss…

    • Dude Ramesh…..first of learn to make a point. Someone wise once told me, “In an argument use strong points and polite words rather than weak points and strong words”. If it still doesn't get in your mind, I am not a saint and can repay u in the same coin and perhaps do a thousand times better job than you can ever think.

      Now, participants in the festival were not going around, grabbing random girls and putting lipsticks on their faces. The were couples who consensually participated. I don't even know why I am trying to explain this to you, because you seem a narrow-minded cultural bigot. Join Ram Sene I suggest, I see a good

  • To start with i would like 2 mention that “the lipstick videotape” is nearly everyone's profile spice at IIT X and so is the apology tape following it.I had “theek hai yaar,unki life hai”types attitude for the first one but got dissapointed by the following one.I feel that if the case was a big peice of burned cake then “the media” had a f**king big portion in it.I can imagine INDIA tv or news 24,broadcasting a live mms in coming days,with subtitles showing the innovations of the aliens,that wud have no action being taken unless its IITians bouncing on the beds.Next big share definitely belongs to politicians and general public who should have no f**king business in deciding the fate of the students involved in Thomso.Definitely,u guy share a portion but that may be regarded as “a trick of the moment” which is very common in such fests,and even more common in other allied non engg. institutes where media doesn't bother to get involved in as they know that such stories wud'nt feed them any good.Girl boy relationship extremes is like “a dog peeing at pillars”affair for them.
    And yes plzz remove that idiotic apology video.
    @Mr.IIScian….just got enlightened by your comments….for your knowledge iam not from IIT R and wud like 2 request u to shut the f**k up.u know wat people like u r big foam d**ks that can just ejaculate but can't be inserted.Do u have any idea of wat the matter is or” taking shits from others” is just another hobby of yours that u have developed after getting into IISc.I know yr parents are very proud of u now for not clearing JEE and so must be you since u feel that IIT is no more a place where “d**k heads who could never see above their zip level and who use dotted rubber only in the form of their hawwaai chappals and never for condoms-the type of people that u aspired to become”get qualified.feel sorry for you!!!
    i wud also like 2 ask u one thing that suppose a guy who suffers from this case because of a**holes like you(which u people wud never succeed in),in order to seek revenge,catches u and ur gf making some boring love in the sheds at IISc,and mail it to INDIA tv who wud not mind broadcasting it(considering IISc,not u),what wud be your take??
    Just feel this situation in your mind.Iam sure that now your hands wud automatically move from your laptops' keyboard to your zip.Open that zip and do watever u want to do with your tiny cutie pie….but don't spread such nonsense….this is my humble request 2 u..thank u:)

  • To start with i would like 2 mention that “the lipstick videotape” is nearly everyone's profile spice at IIT X and so is the apology tape following it.I had “theek hai yaar,unki life hai”types attitude for the first one but got dissapointed by the following one.I feel that if the case was a big peice of burned cake then “the media” had a f**king big portion in it.I can imagine INDIA tv or news 24,broadcasting a live mms in coming days,with subtitles showing the innovations of the aliens,that wud have no action being taken unless its IITians bouncing on the beds.Next big share definitely belongs to politicians and general public who should have no f**king business in deciding the fate of the students involved in Thomso.Definitely,u guy share a portion but that may be regarded as “a trick of the moment” which is very common in such fests,and even more common in other allied non engg. institutes where media doesn't bother to get involved in as they know that such stories wud'nt feed them any good.Girl boy relationship extremes is like “a dog peeing at pillars”affair for them.
    And yes plzz remove that idiotic apology video.
    @Mr.IIScian….just got enlightened by your comments….for your knowledge iam not from IIT R and wud like 2 request u to shut the f**k up.u know wat people like u r big foam d**ks that can just ejaculate but can't be inserted.Do u have any idea of wat the matter is or” taking shits from others” is just another hobby of yours that u have developed after getting into IISc.I know yr parents are very proud of u now for not clearing JEE and so must be you since u feel that IIT is no more a place where “d**k heads who could never see above their zip level and who use dotted rubber only in the form of their hawwaai chappals and never for condoms-the type of people that u aspired to become”get qualified.feel sorry for you!!!
    i wud also like 2 ask u one thing that suppose a guy who suffers from this case because of a**holes like you(which u people wud never succeed in),in order to seek revenge,catches u and ur gf making some boring love in the sheds at IISc,and mail it to INDIA tv who wud not mind broadcasting it(considering IISc,not u),what wud be your take??
    Just feel this situation in your mind.Iam sure that now your hands wud automatically move from your laptops' keyboard to your zip.Open that zip and do watever u want to do with your tiny cutie pie….but don't spread such nonsense….this is my humble request 2 u..thank u:)

  • This post is just to defend the wrong dids of IIT Roorkee's student. I agree that freedom is important but it doesn't mean you should do anything regardless of Society's view. The mocking comments made on others by author here is just to disguise their own weaknesses. If you are an IITian, it doesn't mean that you are god or equivalent to god (hahaha). Let me explain what you people are. You are just bit educated, little bit talented, future bound to be an engineering servent for any MNC, later looking for your personal profits. There are lots of examples where a 3rd class engineering college student has proved himself better that IITian. So I suggest IITians not to boast on being an IITian but to be modest enough becausse when trees bear fruits on them, their branches goes down to show modesty and humbleness.

  • This post is just to defend the wrong dids of IIT Roorkee's student. I agree that freedom is important but it doesn't mean you should do anything regardless of Society's view. The mocking comments made on others by author here is just to disguise their own weaknesses. If you are an IITian, it doesn't mean that you are god or equivalent to god (hahaha). Let me explain what you people are. You are just bit educated, little bit talented, future bound to be an engineering servent for any MNC, later looking for your personal profits. There are lots of examples where a 3rd class engineering college student has proved himself better that IITian. So I suggest IITians not to boast on being an IITian but to be modest enough becausse when trees bear fruits on them, their branches goes down to show modesty and humbleness.

  • in strongest support of bijender s.–________________________________________________________________________________________________ok, fine .if it is accepted that they have committed a blunder this time..then its a request to administration,please focus on those issues also which they have done for the sake of culture and humanity and specially emphesize on that how many times they have done that…….______________________________dont kick them out of college…..otherwise india will loose 5 best engineers than 5 vulgure(so called) event organizer……….____

  • in strongest support of bijender s.–________________________________________________________________________________________________ok, fine .if it is accepted that they have committed a blunder this time..then its a request to administration,please focus on those issues also which they have done for the sake of culture and humanity and specially emphesize on that how many times they have done that…….______________________________dont kick them out of college…..otherwise india will loose 5 best engineers than 5 vulgure(so called) event organizer……….____

  • dude, nice article. I hope and pray that people and the media out there who have been making random and senseless comments get a life soon.

  • One of the top univs in the world, Stanford university has a make out orgy which is fully sanctioned by the university and student body funds mouthwash and condoms for the event.. http://www.stanforddaily.com/2009/10/05/phases-of
    it's an annual tradition.. no media shows up or rather is allowed and it is in full knowledge and with the permission of dean of student activities.. its a perfectly healthy tradition and people interested show up.. if ur morally opposed you don't.. and because you only need to go there if u want to attend and no media bastards are allowed thr, no one's moral sensibilities are hurt. I am an iit alum and have been to this function at Stan, when organizing the sort of thing IITR did one could just ensure that media dogs are kept out and it would all be fine

  • I am surprised… IIT does not have enough ideas ! Arts should be included in IIT … at least that will develop some creativity in them. I remember playing similar game during a children's party(20yrs years back), it was hilarious to see a tail drawn for an animal in a picture, but not like this, we were blindfolded and we did it hand. These brilliant minds should have brainstormed to create quality fun games, after all IIT is not just some college.

    • FYI….IIT does have humanities courses….come around to see some festivals of any of the IITs and you'll realize how much water we have…..but if u choose to sit at ur home and make judgemental remarks based on what u watch on TV and read in paper….best of luck!

  • I am surprised… IIT does not have enough ideas ! Arts should be included in IIT … at least that will develop some creativity in them. I remember playing similar game during a children's party(20yrs years back), it was hilarious to see a tail drawn for an animal in a picture, but not like this, we were blindfolded and we did it hand. These brilliant minds should have brainstormed to create quality fun games, after all IIT is not just some college.

    • FYI….IIT does have humanities courses….come around to see some festivals of any of the IITs and you'll realize how much water we have…..but if u choose to sit at ur home and make judgemental remarks based on what u watch on TV and read in paper….best of luck!

  • this whole “24 hour news” thing is what has tranformed our media into “pooping factory”…arey yaar jab news hoti hee nahi hai 24 gnate toh kya dikhaoge??…”ghanta”……all these ppl wanna do is leverage the name of IIT for some stupid short term trp surge…khud ki aulaad ka IIT

  • this whole “24 hour news” thing is what has tranformed our media into “pooping factory”…arey yaar jab news hoti hee nahi hai 24 gnate toh kya dikhaoge??…”ghanta”……all these ppl wanna do is leverage the name of IIT for some stupid short term trp surge…khud ki aulaad ka IIT

  • Congrats Indian Media!! You have done it again!! You have enlightened us on how dirty IITians are!!…..Would you suggest they be hanged until dead?

    Oh please, if you dont have something enriching and sensical to show, why spoil the career of students who really do not deserve this insane punishment.

    and yeah I agree with the author, the guilty are not the students (if we are hell bent on labelling the whole episode as obscene…which I would beg to differ on), but “What about college administration/proffs who agreed on it??”

    @ IIT-R admin: Please …what has happened to you? Dont give into the pressure of these ppl who make a hue and cry over the most insignificant issues just to grab attention, use some sense.

    @BJP and self proclaimed moral police: guys, if you are so concerned about IIT's (and the purpose for which they were established) then instead of shouting and creating a meance, go face HRD and ask him “why is he adamant on spoiling our beloved IIT''s??”

  • Congrats Indian Media!! You have done it again!! You have enlightened us on how dirty IITians are!!…..Would you suggest they be hanged until dead?

    Oh please, if you dont have something enriching and sensical to show, why spoil the career of students who really do not deserve this insane punishment.

    and yeah I agree with the author, the guilty are not the students (if we are hell bent on labelling the whole episode as obscene…which I would beg to differ on), but “What about college administration/proffs who agreed on it??”

    @ IIT-R admin: Please …what has happened to you? Dont give into the pressure of these ppl who make a hue and cry over the most insignificant issues just to grab attention, use some sense.

    @BJP and self proclaimed moral police: guys, if you are so concerned about IIT's (and the purpose for which they were established) then instead of shouting and creating a meance, go face HRD and ask him “why is he adamant on spoiling our beloved IIT''s??”

  • This is not about IITs, or morals.It is about Norms of public behaviour. Nudity is not a sin but one can't go nude on streets, there is a good logic behind it. Swinsuits are fine, but you don't wear one to interview and lecture about hipocracy and confuse yourself into thiking what you did was right. Same here, In public show have some decency. Get a room if you want and go all the way, who cares. But we don't want this in public.

  • This is not about IITs, or morals.It is about Norms of public behaviour. Nudity is not a sin but one can't go nude on streets, there is a good logic behind it. Swinsuits are fine, but you don't wear one to interview and lecture about hipocracy and confuse yourself into thiking what you did was right. Same here, In public show have some decency. Get a room if you want and go all the way, who cares. But we don't want this in public.

  • A Perspective: I maintain, we as people and nation, have always faltered on the basics. The basics out here being the public decency and our personal conduct to maintain dignity of life. We seem to ape the non-indian ways of life and have a ball so long as it does not involve our families. IITs must also ensure that the young engineers also learn and practice public decency. The incident reported at best could be representative and need not be overblown or put under carpet. Let's appreciate, TV, Internet, iphones/ pads are huge time wasters and playing havoc with young minds even our country. BEST WISHES.

  • A Perspective: I maintain, we as people and nation, have always faltered on the basics. The basics out here being the public decency and our personal conduct to maintain dignity of life. We seem to ape the non-indian ways of life and have a ball so long as it does not involve our families. IITs must also ensure that the young engineers also learn and practice public decency. The incident reported at best could be representative and need not be overblown or put under carpet. Let's appreciate, TV, Internet, iphones/ pads are huge time wasters and playing havoc with young minds even our country. BEST WISHES.

  • For those are thinking IITian are great and whatever they will do is fair and right-
    Do u think IITians are any alien class of mankind born with super intelligence? How many IITians can u name who got a nobel prize or even a bharat ratna? Or, name any one sciientist or student of any IIT whom the world knows well. Dont overestimate urself only bcz u got into IIT and underestimate rest of the world. Go and ask ur parents if they cleared IIT-JEE. If they not, then they dont deserve to be called ur parents. Right?
    They are just good servant @MNC's.

    Whatever happened @IITR-Fest is ———–. Fill in the blank as IITian are ???????

  • For those are thinking IITian are great and whatever they will do is fair and right-
    Do u think IITians are any alien class of mankind born with super intelligence? How many IITians can u name who got a nobel prize or even a bharat ratna? Or, name any one sciientist or student of any IIT whom the world knows well. Dont overestimate urself only bcz u got into IIT and underestimate rest of the world. Go and ask ur parents if they cleared IIT-JEE. If they not, then they dont deserve to be called ur parents. Right?
    They are just good servant @MNC's.

    Whatever happened @IITR-Fest is ———–. Fill in the blank as IITian are ???????

  • being a student of IIT roorkee, i would say that IITR maintains the discipline and control more than any other IIT in india. which other IIT takes a strict disciplinary action against girls not returning before 10 in the night. the hostel rules dont even exist in other IIT's. there is nothing wrong with such contests, as there are several other competitions which are kinda more daring in local universitites. and please, we are all grown ups, we know what to do. the lipstick contest was no big deal.

  • being a student of IIT roorkee, i would say that IITR maintains the discipline and control more than any other IIT in india. which other IIT takes a strict disciplinary action against girls not returning before 10 in the night. the hostel rules dont even exist in other IIT's. there is nothing wrong with such contests, as there are several other competitions which are kinda more daring in local universitites. and please, we are all grown ups, we know what to do. the lipstick contest was no big deal.

  • Hmmmm, At last acceptance come. Attention!!! Dear Bijender. If possible track her IP adress to confirm whether she is from IITR. I think u did the same for me.

    Now a days, In my opinion IITian are good at Destruction and zandu balm in Construction.

  • Hmmmm, At last acceptance come. Attention!!! Dear Bijender. If possible track her IP adress to confirm whether she is from IITR. I think u did the same for me.

    Now a days, In my opinion IITian are good at Destruction and zandu balm in Construction.

  • Rightly said sir!!!
    When a plethora of issues having the potential to rock our collective futures abound we can trust the BJP to involve themselves morally – righteously – stupidly to focus on such fringe non-issues. They are not responsible leaders. Shamefully ensuring that dynastic rule continues.
    I mean we are talking about IIT undergrads here. These guys will only be content to talk Ram Rahim.
    Get a life all i politicos. Reach out and resolve farmer suicides, education / health care for poor, etc. rather than acting like immature adolescents protesting morality!!!

  • Rightly said sir!!!
    When a plethora of issues having the potential to rock our collective futures abound we can trust the BJP to involve themselves morally – righteously – stupidly to focus on such fringe non-issues. They are not responsible leaders. Shamefully ensuring that dynastic rule continues.
    I mean we are talking about IIT undergrads here. These guys will only be content to talk Ram Rahim.
    Get a life all i politicos. Reach out and resolve farmer suicides, education / health care for poor, etc. rather than acting like immature adolescents protesting morality!!!

  • i being a part of d IIT fraternity totally agree with u. the media has got this unmatched capability for creating a whole aura out of total shit . it's a shame dat d students hv bn suspended.

  • i being a part of d IIT fraternity totally agree with u. the media has got this unmatched capability for creating a whole aura out of total shit . it's a shame dat d students hv bn suspended.

  • u think urself to be some self proclaimed know it all having opinions about everything that is happening around…U arrogant hypocrite…u don't shit abt nything yet u keep on blabbering..am sure u won't get it because to get it u need to have a little bit of gray stuff in between ur ears..and please stop giving these stupid anlogies :P :D

  • Are you nyway trying to compete with <a href="http://www.fakingnews.com,because” target=”_blank”> <a href="http://www.fakingnews.com,because” target=”_blank”>www.fakingnews.com,because if you are trying to, please don't..because this is a very pathetic attempt at doing the same..I tell u what do I see..I see a recently college passed wannabe who is going through serious inner delusions and doesn't know what's happening around himself..because your ego seems to be too huge enough to understand the very dynamics of day to day living…U pick some stupid news abt some stupid event and start blaming the media,admin,parents and everything expect yourselves for the shit you are in..I think if u were

  • Are you nyway trying to compete with <a href="http://www.fakingnews.com,because” target=”_blank”> <a href="http://www.fakingnews.com,because” target=”_blank”> <a href="http://www.fakingnews.com,because” target=”_blank”>www.fakingnews.com,because if you are trying to, please don't..because this is a very pathetic attempt at doing the same..I tell u what do I see..I see a recently college passed wannabe who is going through serious inner delusions and doesn't know what's happening around himself..because your ego seems to be too huge enough to understand the very dynamics of day to day living…U pick some stupid news abt some stupid event and start blaming the media,admin,parents and everything expect yourselves for the shit you are in..I think if u were

  • Thanks for taking time to point out my -ve point. And i hope you will keep doing this volunteer work.

    And one wise man said “Dnt just see -ve in your enemy, it wont help for once growth!!!”

    With Best Wishesh.

    • I was interested in Pure Science and had plans of joining IISc at a later stage. Now, i guess, i should try getting into IITs instead…!!!!

  • lol. The media brings unusual attention to the event eh? well, lets see, if your pattern ought to be followed, murder, rape, arson, etc., must not be covered, for, in comparison, its quite miniscule against the normalcy prevalent in the country. the same would apply, if IIT had not hosted such events befitting its national image. its the exception that is always covered, not just because of perversion, but because of its capacity to affect, and hence cause change. just imagine, if the media, with all its perversion, is seen a representative of the taste of the people, this event surely has triggered it; hence the crisis. stop hijacking the news away from its contents. and anycase, films are NOT representative of the moral norms of the country, for if thats so, they would cease to be films. please post with responsibility.

  • Yeah, I am agree with you. But things are reversing, if you are not visible enough to experience then in near future you will get that vision, definitely!

  • and yes, the cry behind all the hue is loud and clear: dont use the “exclusivity” conferred to start new trends and norms, but rather in the intended direction, respecting the tax payers, who, if you shud know, have elected a considerable number of BJP members for precisely what they are good at doing! dont downplay the social response, especially when its more from the less exclusive part, who do not have the “capacity” to make a statement, not because, they are dumb, but just unfortunate. use power responsibly, not as an instrument of ego boost.

    regards,

    a IISc student.

  • Hi, Nice post Bijender. I was also pissed off when i see this in news, that too like as if its a very big deal. I am IITR passout. I am not reading “only” the things that goes in favour of IITR. I am unbiased on this one. I think what happened was a little over (may be or may not be, don't want to think very deeply on this), but it was not so big. I know IITR administration very well, if it would not have been a news in media, then also students would have been warned about this (u know, like don't do this next year kinda stuff, but thats ok). It happens, and there are other types of events that happens in DU and other colleges also… what if media starts making a fuss about them?? Only thing that irritates me in this whole issue is fucked up media and the people who say stuffs like(achha hua IIT mein nai gaye, as if you would have been allowed for admission.. :D )…. and they talk like as if they don't have any better problem in this country to look. I remember a similar kinda stuff happens during valentine days in bangalore, when ramsevak members go to all the couples who hangs out and give them two options, either marry or tie a rakhi…WTF????.. The same ramsevak members don't turn up on 31 december night when drunk ppl tries to harm the girls and even try to rape them…media and such kinda ppl are biggest assholes in country…..

  • Hi, Nice post Bijender. I was also pissed off when i see this in news, that too like as if its a very big deal. I am IITR passout. I am not reading “only” the things that goes in favour of IITR. I am unbiased on this one. I think what happened was a little over (may be or may not be, don't want to think very deeply on this), but it was not so big. I know IITR administration very well, if it would not have been a news in media, then also students would have been warned about this (u know, like don't do this next year kinda stuff, but thats ok). It happens, and there are other types of events that happens in DU and other colleges also… what if media starts making a fuss about them?? Only thing that irritates me in this whole issue is fucked up media and the people who say stuffs like(achha hua IIT mein nai gaye, as if you would have been allowed for admission.. :D )…. and they talk like as if they don't have any better problem in this country to look. I remember a similar kinda stuff happens during valentine days in bangalore, when ramsevak members go to all the couples who hangs out and give them two options, either marry or tie a rakhi…WTF????.. The same ramsevak members don't turn up on 31 december night when drunk ppl tries to harm the girls and even try to rape them…media and such kinda ppl are biggest assholes in country…..

  • @ Abhi ……Decency can be felt when female reporter stopped male reporter before he could comment any rubbish on the incident. In your first argument you accepted the fact that the incident was shameful (“the media did not even blur the faces of the people concerned, opening them to shame they certainly do not deserve”). If they don't deserve that why running it on TV is termed as 'opening them to shame” . Images are made blurred in sex-scandals or in heinous crime cases :) . I agree with your point about media, it has gone mad. On your second point, we still have a long way to go to degrade ourselves, when a daughter or son will tell her/his parents that s/he has lost virginity. “Dost sharm aankhon ki hoti hai”. On part of research, please check out other equally good colleges in the world, they publish more research papers than what our IITs collectively do. Although JEE is the world's toughest exam, IITs don't feature in top universities' list, except for one or two instances. And all the time one reason is given, less number of research papers. Let's stop this now, there are many areas to concentrate on. Incidence like this will set wrong precedence, hence should be avoided in future.

    • Manua, it seems we have not watched the same video. The footage I saw had the reporter giving sizzling commentary, complete with sensationalist hyperbole, as they showed that same tape on infinite loop. If you feel the almost voyeuristic commentary wasn't indecent, we don't have a discussion here. Second, images are blurred when the sensitivities of people can be hurt. You blur politicos and film stars having their behind the scenes sex romps, you blur the faces of pimps and models caught in prostitution rings, and yet you choose not to blur these average Joe students, tainting them for life. We ask the students to show maturity, we don't ask the media to exhibit any, is that your take? Third, I don't ask students to go to their parents with the news of their latest sexcapade, I ask parents to keep their expectations realistic and accept that their ward is bound to 'experiment'. Do not deliberately misinterpret me. And last, is research only newsworthy when you produce a glut of research papers? I have seen a lot of very good and innovative technology, which is oriented toward our nation and its unique demands, churned out by IITians. And all the column space they get, if any, is some obsecure mention in the middle pages of the local daily, hidden between rental and matrimonial adverts. Stopping indecency is fine, but being mature about what you see is also needed.

  • I'm from IIT-R. Dear matey, for once, nobody was suspended, for second those kiddos were not IITians, they were participants, guys from the campus organized the folly(read event) but were not participants, and at last, trust me, I don't want to sound rude but the point is, who cares!! We all know how diligently the media guys work to earn a few bucks out of shit – what do you do if you have a 24 hrs news channel to run, but not enough news to show for 24 hrs? Go easy on the poor dogs…..

  • I'm from IIT-R. Dear matey, for once, nobody was suspended, for second those kiddos were not IITians, they were participants, guys from the campus organized the folly(read event) but were not participants, and at last, trust me, I don't want to sound rude but the point is, who cares!! We all know how diligently the media guys work to earn a few bucks out of shit – what do you do if you have a 24 hrs news channel to run, but not enough news to show for 24 hrs? Go easy on the poor dogs…..

  • I am an alumnus of IIT D and disagree totally with you.

    Society has some norms and the citizens have to abide with it. You can go and live in a nudist colony for all I care. But when in India, you have to abide by the widely accepted norms of the society where are you are – whether you like it or not.
    The thumb rule is simple. What is not acceptable to me for my sister / daughter, is not acceptable to me for another person's sister / daughter.
    Essentially your post has two arguments – besides making sweeping generalizations from a grandstand:a)Everybody is doing it, so why objectb)The participants were comfortable
    These are exactly the arguments that can be used to justify prostitution.

  • I am an alumnus of IIT D and disagree totally with you.

    Society has some norms and the citizens have to abide with it. You can go and live in a nudist colony for all I care. But when in India, you have to abide by the widely accepted norms of the society where are you are – whether you like it or not.
    The thumb rule is simple. What is not acceptable to me for my sister / daughter, is not acceptable to me for another person's sister / daughter.
    Essentially your post has two arguments – besides making sweeping generalizations from a grandstand:a)Everybody is doing it, so why objectb)The participants were comfortable
    These are exactly the arguments that can be used to justify prostitution.

  • I am an alumnus of IIT D and disagree totally with you.
    Society has some norms and the citizens have to abide with it. You can go and live in a nudist colony for all I care. But when in India, you have to abide by the widely accepted norms of the society where are you are – whether you like it or not.
    The thumb rule is simple. What is not acceptable to me for my sister / daughter, is not acceptable to me for another person's sister / daughter.
    Essentially your post has two arguments – besides making sweeping generalizations from a grandstand:
    a)Everybody is doing it, so why objectb)The participants were comfortable
    These are exactly the arguments that can be used to justify prostitution.

  • I am an alumnus of IIT D and disagree totally with you.
    Society has some norms and the citizens have to abide with it. You can go and live in a nudist colony for all I care. But when in India, you have to abide by the widely accepted norms of the society where are you are – whether you like it or not.
    The thumb rule is simple. What is not acceptable to me for my sister / daughter, is not acceptable to me for another person's sister / daughter.
    Essentially your post has two arguments – besides making sweeping generalizations from a grandstand:
    a)Everybody is doing it, so why objectb)The participants were comfortable
    These are exactly the arguments that can be used to justify prostitution.

  • kickass article.! all the guardians of “our culture and tradition”, go GET A LIFE. How will new ideas flourish in a culture crippled by the shackles of tradition? Along with the right to vote, we also earned the right to live according to our terms. Whatever happened, it took place inside the campus, and if the participants or onlookers had no issues with it, who are the media or politicians to condemn it! Who decides what’s “morally correct” in a society where honour killings are rampant! The ABVP is the shittiest party after the Shivsena and the likes of it.Last month it screwed up a ‘beef festival’ in our campus citing the same stupid reasons. Assholes like the ABVP poison young minds with all the titillating “Hindutva” and “we-must-preserve-our-culture” talk.

    PS: I’m a student of Literature.

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