Opinion

Delhi: The Way It Has Changed, The Way It Has Progressed


This is a flow of thoughts. Delhi completed its 100 years of being India’s capital recently, and…

From 11th December 1911 to 11th December 2011, a hundred years have passed and hundreds of changes have passed as well. The only thing stationary since that time is probably the “Paranthewali Gali”. The owners have not ever bothered to renew any furniture inside the shops there, nor even probably got anything repainted. It is just the old 1940s street, still running successfully (don’t know how, but somehow) in the midst of Chandni Chowk. Sometimes, I wonder, does the owner even bother to change the paranthas! Going by the odour of the paranthas, one asks if he is serving the same shit that he served to Nehru years back! Anyway, Delhi is changing and has changed a lot. From taxes to rapes to crimes, from the fast-worsening food-crisis to so-called fasts, everything is increasing at a rate higher than that of the price of gold.

In the Paranthewali Gali

In an environment with such a commingling of both mundane and exciting features, the Delhi women are progressing as well. Women today are leading from the front anyway—from Congress High Command to Trinamool Congress High Command, from Mayawati to Jayalalithaa, from Rakhi Sawant to Barkha Dutt and nevertheless, from Veena Malik to Sunny Leone. Everywhere, whether in the field of politics or media, entertainment or “that” entertainment, they are leading us. But in the capital city that is now 100, the scenario today has become what it was in early 1920s: women are now again afraid to move out at night. Everyday news of molestations and rapes is a really good (or rather, bad) example to show why. Journalists owe a lot to our dear perverts for such news. Thank you so much Delhi men, for your generosity towards women; congratulations for being a resident of a city which completed 100 years of being capital.

So, what I feel is, Delhi is not progressing now; it has actually progressed enough. Yes, the full stop says it all. Let’s put a flash light on this new (the 21st) century. RTI passed. Congress won two times in a row. Sheila Dikshit: a good thing happened (?). Commonwealth Games: a good thing happened, although nowadays, it more often looks as if it is in a relationship with the word “scam”. By the word CWG, it is not Gagan Narang who comes to our mind—it’s Suresh Kalmadi who pops up: a strange irony! And now, the major highlight of this century, not only in Delhi but also all over the country: Anna Hazare.

So, from all the drama happening around from fasts to castes, the only one suffering in Delhi is the common man, who is so uncommon nowadays. I asked an old man sitting at Anna’s fast in Ramlila Maidan a few months ago, “Taau, tu bhi fast rakhyo hai kay?” He replied, “Beta, itni mehengaai mein khaane ko roti naseeb hi na hoti to fast to har doosre din rakhna pad jaata hai manne to.” That’s the situation.

Still we want to fight against corruption rather than poverty, for right to information rather than right to education. Carry on guys. I am a middle class family boy and we know how to survive.

It seems that from anything to everything, apparently nothing good is happening around Delhi. And I feel Delhiites are so (un)lucky to be here. We’re right there at the podium where war is about to begin, and we just have to watch the show. A show where every Sibal and Jaitley is Brutus in their own field and yet can deliver a speech like Antony anywhere you want. Probably it’s because of so many advocates living in our politics and society. Sometimes I feel, there’s no democracy in India, it’s advo-cracy.

Moreover, Delhiites are probably the only people in the world who can cancel a postponed concert by throwing bottles on the crew members of Metallica, a metal band having a fan following larger than the population of Europe and Africa combined. Who else has the guts to do that! And for those guts, somehow people say Delhi is progressing.

Anyway, best of luck, pillocks!


About the author

Vishal Dayama

no bio bruh. This planet sucks.

https://thechaddithings.wordpress.com/

43 Comments

  • this is something that every delhiite relates to themselves and boy you speak very for them..
    good stuff… 😀

  • Oh yes. Now you are going to tell us Delhi’ites who we should be. We’ve been in this city for decades (as in my family’s case 80+ years, thats pre-partition times). You are evidently someone from the outside NCR who has migrated to Delhi/NCR for some career prospects. I wonder if you find Delhi so bad, why do you migrate here in the first place. In my view, if u cannot appreciate Delhi and its greatness, get lost !

    If you have even a single bit of brain, do a thing. Ask a Jaipuri to resurruct Chaura Rasta, ask a Calcuttian to recreate their city, ask someone from Agra to demolish Taj Mahal and build something like the Eiffel Tower. Do tell me if they don’t call you names for asking so.

    What you’re saying is actually offending the soul of this city, you’re offending every Delhi’ite out there. You have shown your deep ignorance with this post. With 37 likes, you might have thought that people support you. But let me tell you some facts.

    1) In over 70% of the rape cases(like the Dhaula Kuan one), the offenders are residents of some different state and visit Delhi only to carry out their wrong doing.

    2) Suresh Kalmadi is a Pune’ite, so better blame Pune wala’s for it, not Delhi’ites. He was the person who scammed, not a Delhi’ite.

    3) Terminal 3 is one of the most KICKASS airports on the planet. I’ve been to many places, and know people who have toured the world, but everyone says that nothing’s like T3, which is second only to New York’s. Look at NY and look at Delhi, huge difference between funding, population, management, wages,financial structure, etc. Still they maintain it.

    4) Being the last, let me seriously give you a warning. DONT EVER POINT A FINGER AT CHANDNI CHOWK. If you think they serve shit, then what are you eating, scat ! Thats a part of the Delhi culture. Bengali’s eat egg roll, Gujrati’s eat Dhokla, Tamilians eat Dosa. Paratha’s are a part of our culture. If you think that our culture, consider the same for yours. As for me, i respect all cultures, all traditions, and i would never speak a word against any of them.

    5) Our Delhi metro has been the pride for Indian transport so much, that even ads for toothpaste use Delhi Metro as a backdrop. Even a two decade old brand like close-up needs Delhi metro to push its product’s sale.

    6) And a stat mister. Vinod Dham, the father of the pentium processor(whose descendents you’re using) was a Delhi’ite.

    7) You seem to be pretty familiar of East Delhi. There’s a place called Khureji (near to a school called BHARAT NATIONAL PUBLIC SCHOOL, yes – that should ring a bell to you). Go to Vivekanand Ashram there. The chief priest consults on horoscopy , and his clients include people born,brought up, and living in Japan, Sweden. He’s been there for 60+ years now. He’s a Delhi’ite, lives up to that name.

    And as for the corruption thing, you’re saying as if Delhi ‘s the only place that corruption takes place. FYI, If you live on some other planet, Bihar, UP, Rajasthan, MP, Maharashtra, Orissa have been a ‘few’ states which have shown the peak of corruption in the past. Kindly letme know your native state, and i can give you exact figures of corruption.

    And another FYI, it was Anna Hazare who had formulated the bill, whose national level implementation is called RTI. Show some respect for the great leader.

    And as for the security lapse at Metallica’s concert, let me remind you we’ve hosted Bryan Adams, 50 Cent, G Unit, last year only , apart from others. And again FYI , THE METALLICA CONCERT WAS IN GURGAON(IN HARYANA), NOT DELHI , get your facts straight. Obviously, you crap from your mouth without even thinking even once. Get your facts straight, the India-SriLanka match in Calcutta in the 1996 world cup was abandoned due to peope throwing bottles.

    You studied at MSIT – a college well known for its alumni. I’ve been to your college at many occasions, interacted with your director(yes, director).

    You seem to be jealous of Delhi’s rich history, and success, like most of the people who commented on this page. If you have the guts, i would like to request you to go over and develop your native states.

    My personal suggestion – if you have so much problem with Delhi, tear away your 10th, 12th and MSIT marksheets/degree instantly. Afterall, they’re from the very place you hate. How come you be so low on self-respect.

    You criticise Delhi of being stuff. Better look at the financial capital of the nation – what they do to people who aren’t from their culture, before uttering a single word. It is us Delhi’ites that take in everyone(like you) from everywhere and give shelter, and a career without any discrimination of language, color, sex, language or culture.

    Pata nahi kaise kaise log aa jaate hai Delhi mein

    Wannabe’s like you ……. you’re sick. Get a Life !

  • So how’d u like my dark humor in d post above – a post in reply to ur post.

    What u’ve actually ignored of dark humor is the basic rule that u dont call someone’s culture ‘shit’ in the name of satirical humor. No humor can allow foodstuff to be compared to scat. Learn from the show the week that wasn’t about satirical humor. U must have received the best shit online award(i”m making a point here, observe), but wouldnt even care about ur blabbering.

    So vishal, you aren’t even eligble for any daya for this, but still u’re excused this time. Kindly use some real creativity and not filth to entertain people, unless u want a case against yourself. Nobody gives a damn about the ‘hidden’ disclaimer in this site.

    • Dear Prateek

      The post is not meant to teach \”Delhiites\” how they should be, but is a set of observations of the things that are wrong here. That Vishal is a person from outside Delhi, is a judgemental point of view, since this post has generated interest among those people as well who are originally from Delhi, like you. So, there is reason to believe you have approached the article from a very sentimental angle, and that might not have been the best way to tackle it. That said, I do indeed respect your reading and interpretation, which is why I am commenting myself to respond to the points raised by you.

      You mention that the writer needs to *appreciate the greatness of Delhi*; well ‘appreciating the greatness’ and ‘pointing out scope of improvement’ are two different things and both can be done simultaneously. Moreover this seems to be the general attitude in India, ‘Tell tales about the glorious past and culture of India, dream about the splendid future that will be BUT compromise with the not-so-good present and neither utter a word about it nor do anything to improve’. This status quo has to change.

      Now coming to the points raised by you:

      1) The post is not about \”Delhiite the person\”, but \”Delhi the city\”. The offenders in rape cases are mostly from outside Delhi *as you say*, but we are talking about a city that is the capital of India, which represents the whole country. If Delhi is unsafe for women, there have to be reasons within Delhi and *solutions* within Delhi, not the excuse that offenders are non-Delhiites. In this context now, the phrase \”Thank you so much Delhi men\” used by the author, never says that the person who is at fault is the Delhi man who was born in Delhi or who has migrated from elsewhere. I repeat, we are talking about Delhi the city, and the circumstances WITHIN that city.

      2) Suresh Kalmadi is from Pune, but again, the site of his scam was Delhi. When we talk about a country, all its parts have similar ratios of clean people and corrupt people. So, if Kalmadi is corrupt, so are many Delhiites, and if some Mumbaikar is clean, so are many Delhiites. Will you, on merely a sentimental basis, deny that Delhiites can not be corrupt? The point is, a city is made by people, and every person is a human on his own, with their own values. Any human society is properly proportioned with the good and the bad. We are not talking about corrupt people here, but corruption. Again, the article is not talking about Delhiites the people being good or bad, but about Delhi the city and the circumstances within that city. (\”It seems that from anything to everything, apparently nothing good is happening around Delhi. And I feel Delhiites are so (un)lucky to be here.\”)

      3) Terminal 3, Delhi Metro, Vinod Dham and great astrologers are not the point. No one is denying their achievements. But this article is not about individual achievements, rather the collective faults/failures that affect a larger crowd and has some scope of improvement.

      4) I apologise for the usage of the word \”shit\” for something which holds a close-to-heritage significance in the city. But the statement \”Going by the odour of the paranthas…\” means that this is the author\’s personal opinion. If the current dirty unhealthy roadside eating habits at fast-food-thelas ever intrude into Chandni Chowk as well, we will NOT stay back from being critical about it, even if it is part of the city\’s heritage and has a sentimental value. A city can\’t risk its health in the wind of sentiments. The error here is in calling the Paranthe of Nehru\’s times also as \”shit\”, which might be careless judgement without having any knowledge of the quality of those times. Apologies.

      Plus you say that every culture has some traditions that they hold dear. The writer is not questioning ‘Delhiites eating paranthas but the quality of the paranthas and the ambience. If there is a scope for improvement in both, why not?

      The Metallica concert was held in Gurgaon, but the people who are being commented about (the ones who threw bottles) were not all from Gurgaon. Delhi is the closest metro city, and it is I believe, natural to assume people from Delhi formed the majority. Again, it is to be noted that behavior of people could not have changed merely by crossing the Delhi-Haryana border. If anything could have changed merely by crossing that political border, it would have been the setup and organising of the event, (since in that case Haryana authorities would come into the picture), BUT that is never the thing being criticized. The comment was upon the people throwing bottles.

      Lastly, the article is an opinion and flow of thoughts—a set of observations made for the sake of expressing disappointment rather than for the sake of expressing ridicule or criticism. This is not satire, and is sarcasm and commentary at most.

      Further, the award received by this website was a testimony of the work by NTMN over two years, and I don\’t think the judges gave us the award by judging just a single article as being good or bad. We are students and in the process of perfecting our art. So, thank you for reading the article and posting the elaborate comment. We will take it as a constructive criticism and improve wherever the scope be. As the editor who passed and published this article, I considered it necessary to reply to points raised by you. I await your response.

  • I hope i’m talking to Mister Tamnay – the founder and not someone else from the editorial board. Let me give clear replies to you.

    As for sentiments, MF Hussain wrote shit about our gods, and look what happened to him. He dies and even then he’s banished from India. Thats what you call Karma. So don’t mess around with anyone’s sentiments.

    And let me be clear. The very headline was the only thing i got interested in. Lampooning can be done in constructive ways too. The only reason i posted is that nobody had supported Delhi here, and i found i’m the only one who was actually not ridiculing Delhi. Mr Bharat Sharma(someone whose existance i’d never like to know about) also takes pride in this nonsense.

    I do see your team is consisting of Bengali’s and all. I myself have stayed in Calcuttafor 15 years(as my dad was posted there, courtesy : ministry of finance,govt of India). And no matter whats the situation there, i loved the city for its humanity. Even last year, for the first time after 2001 i went there, and found the city retaining its old charm. Kindly ask ‘Saswat De’ on how much pride Bengali’s take in their culture and city. So do Delhi’ites. Its just that Delhi is infested with people living there, and cursing it, and considering themselves from somewhere else. And going to disgusting levels to criticize is just BS and nothing more. I don’t need you to explain he’s a Delhi’ite. He might be living here(probably on rent), but he certainly is from somewhere else. I’ve seen dozens of such people. Sooner or later, they spit their mind out.

    As for the security issue, Delhi’s at the peak of Security in India. Just see anyone and everyone can come in this city and live, and still the law and order is better than many states in India(i won’t name any). Delhi’s a UT, and for this reason.

    And for the corrpution, its just that CWG is highlighted more, so you call Delhi at fault. Delhi had held Asian Games way back in 1982, when most of you might were not even born (so keep your sympathies to yourself) and even then it was a great event. As for Mr Kalmadi, he doesn’t own a house here. So he’s not a Delhi resident. As for corruption, go to many states where you can see the same guy holding 5 marksheets for the same class, same roll numbers with different dates of birth. That never happens in Delhi, i can bet you that.

    Terminal 3 and Delhi Metro is not an individual achievement, its the achievement of people who have contributed to Delhi and made what it is. Not certainly like people who blog BS on a site while being a student themselves. Mr Vishal’s director is a ex-army personnel of Kashmiri origin. If he had seen this post, he would have immediately taken action against him. When you criticize Delhi, criticizing how Bangalore and Mumbai metro’s are way behind DMRC even when they’re more hi-tech and possess better engineers would have been constructive and would have actualy suggested for improvement. T3 and DMRC kick everyone’s ass, and you know it. And as for individuals, Vinod Dua(of NDTV) is a Delhi’ite since birth. He’s the most neutral person i’ve seen on TV, and his actions are for us, not for himself. Its the citizens that make the city, not some lampoons. Bangladeshi’s live in Delhi, but does anyone consider them as Indians – noone does. Get a dose of reality guys. Stop living in your imaginary world. When Virender Sehwag hits a century, he brings pride to India and not just Delhi.(FYI, everytime India won the cricket world cup, the team consisted of 4 Delhi’ites, thats 40% of the team which can be taken as roughly half the team, and you think BS about Delhi)

    As for hygiene, goto the rest of the metropolitans. Every city has streetfood. Except for Chennai, no city can match the cleanliness in Delhi, and that inspite every year 5lac people come and settle in Delhi. Dude, take my advice, go there, and have some food. Its way better than that firangi Maggi that you engineers eat in hostels. Stop acting like as if you were servants for Britishers. Do you even know why was chaat, paratha and stuff started in Delhi. It was because in the times of Aurangzeb, when flood occured in Yamuna bringing in cholera and similar diseases, Aurangzeb’s advisors implemented such food to avoid deaths. Kindly refer to your history books. Mr Vind Dua has also mentioned on his show “Zayka India Ka”, if you have heard of it(you wont find it mentioned in American Masterchef). And paratha is just a Delhi version of the famous Bengali Roll(Egg Roll, fish roll to name a few).

    As for the gurgaon fiasco, buses full of people had travelled all the way from Agartala and Shillong to Gurgaon(kindly check http://forwhomthebusrolls.com/ ). People had travelled even from UK and made it a stop in Delhi to catch Metallica. Mr editor, bottles were also thrown in Calcutta when India lost the match in 96 world cup against SriLanka, but that was when people saw the umpire taking unfair decisions against India. It was justice they demanded. So did Gurgaon people when they found that the organisers Valdimir charged INR2500+ and the event was cancelled with no refunds. So kindly SHUT UP and stop making a fool of yourself. If you have any problems with people protesting after their money was looted, kindly don’t BEG for money yourself with that paypal box. Have guts, go for PPC and text ads(thats when WordPress allows banner ads for personally hosted sites not not sites on wordpress server). If facebook does it, why can’t you. If your content is so good, feel confident and let the masses decide your revenue.

    You always use that unknown award (that noone has ever heard of) as an excuse to save your neck. Get a life. The site might might have good stuff, but when the editor himself defends the BS on his site, it proves that the site needs visitors. Faking news hasn’t been two year old, nor has Gursimran Khamba,but they have made their impact WORLDWIDE. So don’t give me that award crap. Besides, accept your foolishness, and not defend it. Your author finds Veena Malik – the ex-girlfriend of a national traitor cricketer, and a pornstar(rather slut in simple terms) Sunny Leone advanced ladies.I wonder if you want your partners to be as advnaced as Sunny Leone. Advanced lady hai Sunny leone – utter BS.

    I would certainly like to advice you Mr Editor to restrain from such posts, with such a lame disclaimer. Take help from a PR or a legal team. Let me quote from your own disclaimer

    “Although satire is usually meant to be funny, its greater purpose is often constructive social criticism, using wit as a weapon”.

    Kindly let me know when did calling edible stuff scat, or Delhi’ites ‘pillocks’ constructive. I find it foolish and insanic. Know what. The post has enough stuff to be sued in a PIL and shut down your startup once and for all. Now thats constructive criticism for you, read it, think over it. Thats your food for thought.

    • Mr. Prateek,
      I really appreciate your love for the city. This comment I post with the hope that having born and been brought up in Delhi entirely, I am eligible to have an opinion about the city I live in—both its good and bad, that is.

      Honestly, what you’re trying to initiate here would have looked like a healthy debate of sorts, had it not been as unmindful of the author’s sentiments as, like you say, the author’s views were to yours. At the top, the label CLEARLY specifies the category the article comes under: OPINION. Which is a section where we allow our writers to come up with their opinion about something. It is a person’s opinion, not NTMN’s. The idea is to make people think and talk about relevant things. They may agree, or disagree… totally their choice.
      Which is why I liked the fact that you read and observed everything so closely. But I will just say that the way you have addressed the author at several places is disgraceful, to say the least. It is my personal belief that we should respect PEOPLE first and places/things second.

      As for the counter-arguments you have put forth, they are genuinely good. You’re stressing on the positive side of the coin while the author stressed on the negative one. I am not giving my opinion about the article per se, I am trying to make you understand that there still is no reason for you to get so aggressive. It’s just about the difference of opinions. And on a side note, your snobbish remarks attack not just the writer but our whole team, particularly the editor. Which keeps, at least me, away from participating in what COULD have been a good debate.

      Thank you so much for your feedback. Always welcome. Still.
      🙂

  • And another thing, for those who’re not familiar with art and didn’t get why i said “mf hussain wrote…”. Any artwork such as a painting comes with a description of whats depicted in it.

    Don’t treat people the way you wouldn’t like if it happens with you.

    And Mr editor, take my advice and resign. Passing such a culture-insulting post that is just a replication of the ‘the letter by a madrasan’ thing for public attention is the weakest form of editing, and shows nothing like editing exists on the site. Personally, i liked the whack on JEE and Narayan murthy, but it was a well executed work.

    Disclaimer: This is just a constructive unfiltered feedback for the owners of this site, and is not meant to offend anybody in any way. I shall not be responsible for anything anyone feels.

  • And Sugandha, would you like if someone called girls blondes, Airheads and pillots and all such chauvinistic crap in name of freedom of speech, would you enjoy it. Frankly speaking, no matter how much you try to save the author, you cannot. I hope u’re read my previous reply, its just that i just came across yours. Take responsibility for nonsense you’ve done.

    People call digvijay Dogvijay cuz he uses no brains while speaking. This Vishal here speaks taxes are increasing at high rates. Unless he purchases alcohol or property, there’s no tax hike(i myself pay bills, i know the taxation here). Even sarcasm has a limit. Calling foodstuff shit and sunny leone a progressed lady – thats the peak of nonsense. If you such a sense of grace, where was it when your subordinate/coworker/whatever called sunny leone advanced and stuff.

    This guy doesnt even know that congress has been elected for 3rd successive row and not two. This is worse than fake news. As head of operations, you need to be responsible.

  • (continued, textboxes have a 1000word limit in a phone)

    As for aggression, i’ve always been aggressive against dumdum’s. This is not faking news. Still incorrect stats, culturally offending language, and still you think you’re doing a good job – think again.

    Mr Vishal thinks Sibbal and Jaitley are jerks of some sorts. Someone kindly remind him that they are lawyers and have had a distinguished academic career. South Delhi’s MP Vijay Malhotra – a 5 time MP election winner is a Phd.

    I’ve gone ballistic because you’re team is defending someone’s offensive remarks filled with ignorance. And that too, while sitting in Delhi. And so are you doing. If you’re the admins, you’ve done a disaster of content-monitoring work. That too when Mr Tanmay and you yourself are enjoying Delhi quota in the topmost government college operated by Delhi. For his kind info, the school he passed his high school from is being owned by a Delhi minister only. So if he finds any fault with Delhi admin,he should ask Shri Arvinder Singh Lovely to do something and not just talk .

    I would have actually had respect if you admins here had not shown such irresponsibility and actually hadn’t tried to save Vishal from embarrassment. Had this been the commercial capital of the nation, you would have been misbehaved by some local party..

  • (continued, textboxes have a 1000word limit in a phone)

    As for aggression, i’ve always been aggressive against dumdum’s. This is not faking news. Still incorrect stats, culturally offending language, and still you think you’re doing a good job – think again.

    Mr Vishal thinks Sibbal and Jaitley are jerks of some sorts. Someone kindly remind him that they are lawyers and have had a distinguished academic career. South Delhi’s MP Vijay Malhotra – a 5 time MP election winner is a Phd.

    I’ve gone ballistic because you’re team is defending someone’s offensive remarks filled with ignorance. And that too, while sitting in Delhi. And so are you doing. If you’re the admins, you’ve done a disaster of content-monitoring work. That too when Mr Tanmay and you yourself are enjoying Delhi quota in the topmost government college operated by Delhi. For his kind info, the school he passed his high school from is being owned by a Delhi minister only. So if he finds any fault with Delhi admin,he should ask Shri Arvinder Singh Lovely to do something and not just talk .

    I would have actually had respect if you admins here had not shown such irresponsibility and actually hadn’t tried to save Vishal from embarrassment. Esp you miss Sugandha, i didn’t expect this from a Delhi’ite. Maybe you’re trying to save your friends. But you should remember , karma comes back, always !

  • And one more thing Sugandha. A word of personal advice(since you’re a Delhi’ite too). Have some self-esteem. No matter how close a friend or coworker is, they’re not above who you are. If any of my friends had said so about my culture, i would have snapped my ties immediately and ignored that man’s very existance on this planet. If i’d be lucky, i would have seen someone ruining his life(karma, it comes back always, u just need to be lucky enuf to see the man who hurted you suffer bigtime).

    And even if you bother to reply, i dont care. I’m done with this stupid post and the ignorant lame’os bunch forever.

    • Mr Prateek,
      our editor’s name is Tanay, not Tanmay.
      It’s sad that you felt we are defending the author for his post. As a matter of fact, the views in OPINION articles are authors’ own and not of NTMN, like I already told. So I, or anyone here, doesn’t need to defend an author here.
      We apologize for the offensive language used in the article at some places. In fact, Tanay has already apologized for the same. No denying that. But rules and the format for this section do not now allow us to apologize for the views expressed here. Please try to understand this. You have a negative opinion for this article, which we have noted. Definitely, we will try not to make any errors on our part next time onward. In return I request you to please understand the format of this section. For example, when I am posting an article against Team Anna here, they are entirely MY views. NTMN is only the platform to make other people read it and come out with their own views. I am entitled to get both brickbats and bouquets for the same. Similarly, there may be another author writing in favour of Team Anna in this section.

      Thanks again for your time here. Hoping that peace might prevail now, and you are able to understand our point of view, I rest my case here.

      Thank you.

  • Sugandha , do you have any brains, do you? You’re a Sikh yourself, the mighty Sikhs that defeated the French solely in Mughal times, the Sikhs that are respected throughout the world and welcomed. Yes, those respected Sikhs that prefer death rather than slavery and insult. How do you feel when people pass Sardar jokes even when you’re from one the most independent culture in the whole of the world(yes, i mean that. Sant Chatwal, a common man from Indian villages now makes Clintons dance to his tunes, Milkha Singh without the basic sporting equipment won the Olympic gold while sprinting BARE FOOT). That’s the same feeling i felt when people talk shit on your website about my city while you sit there and yak around. Negative opinion – okay. Your friend here is shitting with his mouth. And you inspite of being the admin incharge have no shame even as a female to stop his nonsense regionalistic discriminating pravachan in the name of sarcasm, opinion, or satanic humor(first decide, your editor Tannay calls it “. This is not satire, and is sarcasm and commentary at most.”). You don’t have any shame at all, do you. First they insult your city on your site, and next they call a prostitute advanced and project her as a role model, and you find my comments disgraceful. You have either been brainwashed, or have lost your mind. Just do a thing. Go over to your parents, make them read this post, and ask them whose right – your ‘beastly’ subordinate Vishal, your coowner and the so called editor Tanay(when he says “And I feel Delhiites are so (un)lucky to be here” ) , or me. And for guys like Mr Vishal, they’re parasites who exist off Delhi, and speak ill of it only. He like those beasts who first eat off a plate, and when the food’s over, they shit in that plate only. Does your ‘sorry’ make up for the damage that’s been done, to your self respect, to what you have associated with, to DCE, to Delhi. Ask that question to yourself. Grow up. Usually girls are image conscious, have a lot of self respect, respect their city, their country, their parents and all, and , i expected that from you. Let this be a lesson to your subconscious. Though i have to admit, you’re the most decent one out here, inspite of the fact you curse me.

    And Mr Tanay/Tanmay/whatever, i pity on you that you had to leave your school in 7th inspite of the fact that you lived in the “Lawless Lalu” era, so better think over yourself once before speaking “If Delhi is unsafe for women, there have to be reasons within Delhi and *solutions* within Delhi, not the excuse that offenders are non-Delhiites”. Also when you say “Further, the award received by this website was a testimony of the work by NTMN over two years, and….”, you forget that its DTU that you’re cashing on. Millions of fells start a blog or a site everyday, and many of them turn into celebrities. Go to Select Citywalk, Pacific Mall, or CP and ask anyone from the youth. Nobody knows you, nor your site. So get a reality check. If you are so much irritated of corruption, why don’t you come out and drive a campaign on this site. If you and your mate from MSIT here are happy tolerating corruption, you might as well be happy tolerating British slavery.

    And a message specially for you, Mr Dayama. Don’t push us Delhi’ites so much that we’re forced to form something of the MNS sorts. If you want to make a life, secure safety for your family, you’re welcome. If you have so much problems, kindly do a favour to yourself, and LEAVE. It’ll leave you with some respect(thats a whole different thing people call you vulgar names on your fb account, like as on http://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=3046791258… , that shows how much your friends respect you). You should rename yourself to Zaleel. Zaleel’ed on your post, zaleel’ed on your FB account, no wonder that name suits you.

    All you team members of NTMN, Have some brains. Mr Vishal has written enough crap to call it regionalism, and discriminating. It openly violates the secularism, and unity of the nation, while offending one of the best prime ministers of the nation(he was the only Pm who delivered everything he promised on his agenda, none of his successor did that). If you don’t want any legal trouble, better implement a content-control. Remember, the government is watching. I’m giving you a chance to correct mistakes, but the government or the court does not.

    Once again, to everyone who’se reading this. Don’t treat people the way you dont want yourself to be treated with. There are reasons to everything and everyone, so don’t consider yourself too privileged.

    And for all those who think BS of Delhi,while living here.

    Hum Dilliwalo ke dil bahaut bade hai, itni bakwaas mat karo ki humein bade dil ki jagah Delhi Navnirman Sena tumhe banake dikhani pade. Izzat se raho, khao , kamao, fir jaha jaana hai jao ! Nahi pasand shahar, to tumhe jaane se humne nahi roka. We’ve respected your culture, but if you do not like it, we’re more than happy to NOT stop you to leave the city forever.

  • MR PRATEEK,

    You are crossing the line. Please. “Do you have any brains, do you?” I won’t say this is not how one talks to a girl. I’ll just say this is NOT how anyone talks to ANYONE; without even knowing them.
    I am not a Sikh, I have little idea where that came in from. You seem to be doing some sort of “research” here, I don’t know why. Giving a link to someone’s photo on a public forum for no specific reason is highly disgraceful. Mr Dayama is not a friend. He happens to have written his first article on NTMN with this one. So I am aware it is bound to get its share of criticism. But dragging all of us into it so pathetically, for a small, yes you will curse me now (again), a SMALL thing is getting disgusting now.

    Delhiites are known to be big-hearted, friendly and bindaas people. I know it well enough. But I have NO IDEA how that is important, because we are all humans first! Looking at the way you are getting increasingly personal and impolite, and the “I’m giving you a chance to correct mistakes, but the government or the court does not” attitude, I am sorry but, I am beginning to lose respect that both Tanay and I had developed, for the intellectual weight in your argument. Personally, I see you discriminating among people on one obvious criteria.

    In fact, going by your comments, it is no more about this article or Delhi. Had you addressed the issue like a gentleman, we’d have definitely considered deleting the post, we have done so in the past too. Readers’ sentiments matter much to us, but readers who attack us this way, well, I have nothing more to say.

    I would still request you, though, please calm down. Think wisely. You love Delhi, right; but it wouldn’t be a bad idea loving or at least respecting “people” too. I am afraid, I will not be able to carry this argument further. Had it been literary criticism or something like that, I’d have happily heard from you and accepted them; even passed it all to Vishal. But the personal attacks towards Mr Dayama, Tanay and me; and the venomous, often mocking, undertone in your remarks are extremely disappointing for me as a person, as a human, as a girl and as a Delhiite.

    May peace prevail. Thank you.

  • Good. Now you all can actually feel the pain what i felt. Now i’m sure NTMN will never have any more discriminating BS that would need to be deleted. Now that’s satanic constructive sarcasm. Hah ! And i consider all men and women equal in all aspects. So i think very differently about ‘talking to a girl thing’.

    When your editor offers me sympathy as if i was a meek creature who wanted pity, i needed to show that a single Delhi’ite can rip anything apart. I’ve heard and read enough nonsense for Delhi, and i’ve had enough of it. I don’t know who is this Mr Dayama(nor i ever want to know about that pest’s existance), and still he writes shit for my native culture. Sorry, i’ve got enough self esteem to teach such people a lesson. People don’t learn with peace nowayadas. Too bad you don’t know much about mass sentiments.

    And as for Vishal, he insulted me as a Delhi’ite, as someone who loves those parathas. He called me a Pillock for eating parathas and consider myself from this ‘historical’ place. My grandfather and my father used to live in that Chandni Chowk. (FYI, 8, Sadar Thana Road was my grandfather’s official residence in the pre-partition era which is now converted to a government godown, i’ve seen it , He was the excise inspector for the whole of Sadar) . For me, Chandni Chowk is like a mother’motherland’. Thats where my family roots from. And I SHALL NOT TOLERATE ANY BS against it anyday, especially someone who doesn’t even know the city (there you go, in your preferred decent language). I shall not hesitate in making people feel what they made me feel.

    And don’t carry this argument furthur. That’s enough mockery for everyone of you for a lifetime(esp the author), i personally feel that. But you should be once thinking what made me so ballistic in the first place. Know what. No matter what you say, your sorry can never fix things at my end. Your ‘first timer’ has insulted the very existence of the place i’m from. Venom is healing as well as killing. I prefer healing. And i can bet it will atleast heal the ill there who think they can speak out anything about anyone and any culture and nobody will oppose.

    • Mr. Prateek,

      I read the post and then 1783 more, which would be your comments of equally longer length. And once I had read both, as a long time reader of NTMN and as a person who has lived in and has relatives in Delhi, I felt compelled to comment, so comment I shall.

      First, the elephant in the room; the post. I don’t like it anymore than you do. But unlike you, rather than getting riled up at the writer, I am mad at the issues pointed by him. Despite all the glorious past Delhi has had, we can’t ignore the fact that these issues exist. Now either we can live with them and be content with the history we have had or we can be mature, talk about and solve them.

      Second, the writer was obviously very wrong in comparing food with shit but I guess considering the graveness of the matter, the Editor himself responded to your comment and apologized for it, which should settle the matter. Other than that the writer is fully entitled to have and express his own opinion, as are you to disagree with them and express your disagreement, gracefully that is.

      Now from one Delhiite to another and I’m going to say this in as harsh a manner as I can, Stop confusing Delhi’s pride with your ego and labelling the latter as your ‘abundant self-esteem’. Delhi has seen and gone through much worse during the course of last millennium and its pride stood intact through thick and thin. IT IS NOT TOO SHALLOW AS TO SHATTER AT THE SLIGHTEST HINT OF A CRITICISM. Now you seem too much in love with Delhi, I totally respect that. I stand apart when you don the hat and overalls of a Delhi fanatic and chauvinist willing to tear apart, crucify and get personal with anyone who as much as even dares to point finger towards a dark spot. It saddened me gravely when you talk about forming a counterpart of MNS and doing a Raj Thackeray to the outsiders who do not fall in line with your viewpoint of Delhi. My dear friend I’m sorry to say but if this is your perception of Delhi, you need to get a reality check.

      You further comments after first one were more of a digressed rambling, interspersed with name-calling, personal attacks and continual preaching to fulfil some personal vendetta of ‘making them feel the same’; that I don’t fully comprehend.

      Now what you wrote, rather preached about the NTMN, if the site was so inconsequential, as you portray it to be, you wouldn’t be coming back to counter what is written here, Your taking notice of what they write is a testimony in itself that it matters and of course it then becomes a responsibility on the part of the their team to maintain that standard and quality. I can personally vouch that many of the NTMN’s articles have been superb all in terms of content, purpose and impact.

      Last, regarding your ‘misdirected’ anger towards the NTMN, particulary Tanay and Sugandha. First, at least get his name right, that’s the least you can do if you expect a mature discussion, and that too after being pointed out. Other than that I don’t condone the tone, the personal names and adjectives you have used for them. But that is my view; you obviously don’t seem to agree. Someone much wiser than all of us here once told me, “IN A DEBATE/DISCUSSION USE SOFT WORDS AND HARD ARGUMENTS, NOT OTHER WAY ROUND”.

      PS: If you so wish to reply to me, keep it a little short will you?

  • Mr Dixit, kindly do your own business for a change and not speak what you don’t have ANY knowledge about. Living for a few months, and having relatives in the city doesn’t mean you’re a Delhi’ite. 5 Lac people come and settle in this city every year. FYI, i happen to come across a specific IPS whose serving as DCP in DP, and he’s not a Delhi’ite. He’s an IPS from the Bihar cadre, and he doesn’t own a home here, nor intends to settle, yet he lives in Delhi in a government accomodation. So what you say about you being a Delhi’ite is ZERO for me.First make your parents and yourself live atleast 50 years, then come interact. If you were in the first place, you would have felt the insult this Dayama has done. I’ve seen those times too when there used to be a sewage disposal land infront of the Dabur registered office in Ghaziabad – which people nowadays know as Pacific mall. And adjoining this Dabur building is the same Bhushan Steel factory where scrap explosives were found once upon a time(yeah, early 2000’s, October 2004 to be precise). Do you even know for how many years the Huda City Centre- Jahangirpuri line had been in the high court for compensation disputes, FYI , since 1991(go check it out yourself, or ask anyone from the INA Market which happens to be the only ‘market’ in India that opens 365 days in a year and doesn’t close even on 15th August). I’ve been in the city since the times when Anand Vihar ISBT didn’t even exist on paper(forget on land).That’s statistics. Unless you can give me such statistics, you’re nothing.

    Mr Dixit, Would you like if someone calls names to your mother in the name/excuse of ‘opinion’. Can you justify ‘Indian and dogs not allowed’ line that Britishers used to state, it was just a rule, they never said anything about Indians being beasts. It was something like club rules. But any smart man understands the insult. So first criticize the jackass author who comments about the streetfood in the city without knowing why did it exist here in the first place, specifically mentions the trademark place, the author who calls names such as pillock, and YOURSELF GET A REALITY CHECK.

    You seem to be literate, certainly not educated. He calls Delhi’ites pillocks(which if you’re a Delhi’ite, calls you too). He takes issues from Haryana and project them as Delhi’s. Next, he shall be cursing Delhi’ites for the Maya park in Noida. Grow up(your inexperience is evident). Get yourself a dictionary first and look up pillock. The author started it, and he will pay for it, and he does. Hard arguments – so whats the admin here saying sorry for. You really have no senses, do you. Doesn’t the site have any responsibility. Even the Mr Editor here says he’s checked the post personally and only after his thumbsup the post has been published. So eventually, he’s responsible for this(go ask a lawyer if you don’t believe me, every editor has some legal responsibilities).

    I’ve not confused self-esteem with ego. You might have been the one who confused it. I’ve seen the reality. A few years back, i visited a friend of mine who studied in an NIT in his hostel. His roomie used to call Delhi names. 5 years down the line, he’s living here, and still has the same opinion inspite of the fact that the state government of his state ruined the employment opportunities in his state(though i must admit, he comes from the land of the learned). What should you call his actions. I call him a parasite who curses Delhi for the inferiority complex he has. I believe Mr Vishal is a similar creature. If he would have, he wouldn’t have aggressively pointed at the historical lanes.

    As for preaching me name spellings, kindly first preach the ignorant author, who doesn’t even know how many times INC’s won in Delhi successively, who thinks Gurgaon is Haryana. An inclusion of an extra ‘m’ doesn’t change much, does no insult(too bad you lame’os dont have anything else to say in your defence except going back to this ‘m’). But speaking shit without even knowing the city’s recent history shows sheer ignorance and stupidity.

    I highly suspect Mr Dixit that you don’t even exist, you’re just a ficticious character like Archies. First, the editor went away from the conversation. Then the admin. I highly suspect that you are nothing but a representation of their team. Even if you exist(which i must say, is a desperate attempt to save ine insult due to my ‘research’), you’re a hardcore fan for NTMN, or as Sugandha says ’emotional loyalty'(yes, its from Facebook research), or maybe a pal. Whatever it is, i don’t care about any one of you. You lost whatever respect you had the very moment you support this post. And so did the admin here.

    Delhi’s had this huge employment potential because law and order, taxation, power, etc is in the best standards in the nation. And when i say people parasites infest our city for being tolerant, i mean it. If they were smart enough, they would have realised that earlier.

    Also, Miss Sugandha, i missed out this the last time. When i mention “the government doesnt pardon …” thing, its a constuctive suggestion. Kindly remember, you’re studying in a government college, i thought giving you a prior knowledge of the ‘possible consequences’ would be good on my part. You want to accept it, or not, your wish.

  • And letme mention and clear up once and for all. If you think an extra m makes the conversation immature, you need a doctor.

    • I just wish to say that Tanay or I do not need to comment on our own website with another name. You were being highly and insanely disrespectful of the editor which is why I asked him to keep away and tried talking on my own accord. And that I left the conversation with my last comment is pretty evident. To be honest, we were only relieved that it ended there because all of us here have better work to do.

      Mr Shwetank Dixit is very much real and these are his own views. Unlike yourself, one may even trace/stalk him—something you have been doing so far. If there is someone whose existence can be doubted, then it’s your very esteemed self.

      You are not the only one who is entitled to an opinion, any other reader like Mr Dixit is too. So please accept it and stop casting heinous aspersions at us NOW at least.

      Last I know, you certainly are not the Prime Minister. So please do not worry about me or my education in the govt. college that I am in. In spite of my repeated insistence to be your saner self, you have been casting bad remarks, subjecting us to uncivil prejudice and even have been trying to THREATEN us for some “error” that we have already apologized for. Any sane person reading this conversation can know who deserves to be held guilty. At least by now when too much has been said and heard.

      P.S: That is the worst and most pitiable use and show of knowledge I have ever seen. Before telling someone else that he is literate but not educated, I humbly advise you to consider the same for yourself.

  • Gee. This comes from a girl with no self respect at all. Hope you make enuf pennies with this site of yours. And miss kiddo. You should better complete your engineering before preaching me stuff, i’ve seen way more world(infact, ask your seniors at UaV how many times have they won the directors guild award at the yearly US competition, the precise number is 1, that too in the year 2009, that was inspite your uav dint complete the course, crosscheck that stat and see for yourself , i’ve been at their palwal testing grounds and seen them in action even way before you thought of engineering). You’re a complete failure when it comes to managing this site. If mr zaleeluddin is at fault, so are you equally. Cursing me won’t help your work. You’re a failure at work, and admit it. Acting childish and sobbing out won’t take you anywhere.
    (btw heinous aspersions – that just defines well this post on YOUR site. Thank you for making my work easier 🙂 )

  • Gee. This comes from a girl with no self respect at all. Hope you make enuf pennies with this site of yours. And miss kiddo. You should better complete your engineering before preaching me stuff, i’ve seen way more world(infact, ask your seniors at UaV how many times have they won the directors guild award at the yearly US competition, the precise number is 1, that too in the year 2009, that was inspite your uav dint complete the course, crosscheck that stat and see for yourself , i’ve been at their palwal testing grounds and seen them in action even way before you thought of engineering). You’re a complete failure when it comes to managing this site. If mr zaleeluddin is at fault, so are you equally. Cursing me won’t help your work. You’re a failure at work, and admit it. Acting childish and sobbing out won’t take you anywhere.
    (btw heinous aspersions – that just defines well this post on YOUR site. Thank you for making my work easier 🙂 )

    So long, losers

    • Been driving for around a year now, just in case it matters. 🙂
      But considering how much older and wiser and more experienced you are, as you tell us, I absolutely don’t mind the concern, sir, in spite of the bad way it is put in.
      Anyway, I hope and pray that you overcome your life’s problems soon and stop being so hard on yourself.
      Thanks again, sir. I hope that at least now, you have offended us as much as you wanted to. I think this should end here now. It’s a little request from a kid. 🙂

  • My problem is you. Snobbish wannabe trash talking jerks who take freedom in cursing cultures irritate me, so do dirtbags who try to cover up for their friends and instead repel to those who ask questions.

    As for your little request, little kid, i’m sorry i can’t entertain that. If you guys can go shameless enough to defend culture offending posts, i suppose i can take the liberty of being here(yup, freedom of expression comes back to you). but i assure you, the very day porn becomes a ‘noble’, ‘prestigious’ work, the day abusing cultures becomes an ‘act of national honour’ , i’ll do as you want.

    I seriously wonder. Whats wrong with you guys. You find me offending, when i’m making remarks on you, but you dont find offending when mr zaleel takes pride in abusing culture, people who have been living in the city for generations , compares shit to food, compares Barkha Dutt(who is a role model for journalism) to Sunny leone (just in case you’re not bright, we have a word in Hindi that describes prostitutes, pornstar is just a glamourised version,now thats getting a bit harsh, but then you don’t understand easy to understand words ) and the Editor takes pride in saying he passed the post for publishing. Weren’t you taught self respect(even a little bit), or you’d like to turn into a beast? I simply wonder. And you with so much ease say you’ve offended people in the past and deleted the post to cover up – bravo. Your parents must be so proud of you.

    And btw, just go over and cross check the data i’ve given, and post if i’m right or wrong(no worries, its a sunday, go ask your physics department tomorrow). Its surprising to see you never answer any questions. Things people do to save embarrasment. Welcome to media ladies and gentlemen . Thats where your credibility comes to test.

    • Here is my last comment on this post to you.

      1. Apology for the said mistakes—Done, by us.
      2. Promise to be more careful next time onward—Sincerely done, by us.
      3. Explanation of the reason why the article got published… because it is the OPINION section that is meant to present one opinion and make readers come up with their own—DONE DONE DONE.
      4. Brash abuses and/or highly personal and prejudiced and ruthless remarks hurled at the author, Editor and myself—Done, by your esteemed self.

      Ignoring all the inhuman things said by your esteemed self, we still tried to be polite to you, hoping that a more civil tongue might speak after all. It didn’t, we kept quiet, kept apologizing, kept explaining.
      Yet, the “problem” persists. Everybody in this world makes mistakes. Some apologize for the same, some don’t. We did… for ours.

      Thank you.
      Good Bye.

      • Prateek: Going through the barge of comments on this post, I have come to understand that you are a knowledgeable and perspicacious reader, who not only reads but also absorbs the words while reading. And I must appreciate your unconquerable will to win an argument and make a point. And then, your intense affection and devotion to the city, and being defensive of it, till-the-last-breath dedication. All admirable.

        But then, they way you splashed unsolicited personal remarks on Sugandha, Tanay, Vishal and Shwetank, is highly disappointing. No! I don’t mean that you live to meet my expectations or to please me, or anyone else. But directing your criticism to as low as involving “the Parent’s name” is not acceptable, whatsoever. And certainly not, coming from a person who claims the seniority and excellence awards.

        And I couldn’t ascertain how the higher faculties of an apparently thoughtful person allowed him to demean someone’s assiduousness of 2 years, yes, the NTMN Website. If we go around asking people in DLF mall, many would not know what Faking News, Medindia, Jhumpa Lahiri, Uday foundation is, and that does not prove any point regarding the stands of all the mentioned things.

        Had you been a healthy critic, a young writer would have been inspired to rectify his mistakes and be more thoughtful and cautious next time. The whole purpose of inspiring change through words would have been met in a graceful manner. And the direction of flow for that change would have been reverse, as in, from a reader to a writer. But alas! a rational brain like yours chose to be cynic in stead and everything turned out ugly here.
        I would ignore if some feeble-minded person had done so, but it filled me with disgust to see a reason-gifted brain to have initiated such sequence of comments.

  • Sugandha, a couple of years back, i attended a workshop by Dr S. V. Mani, the then GM of TCS’s European operations(was in Budapest then, dont know where now). He had conducted a workshop on industry-management familiarisation and there, we were taught many things, out of which was this one

    “Never ever say – Humne to bol diya”
    Your reply reminds me of that.

    @Anita: What/Who the heck are you. Anyways, don’t know, dont care. I’ve encountered a lot of poopheads in this very post, and dont care if there’s one more posting

  • Sugandha, a couple of years back, i attended a workshop by Dr S. V. Mani, the then GM of TCS’s European operations(was in Budapest then, dont know where now). He had conducted a workshop on industry-management familiarisation and there, we were taught many things, out of which was this one

    “Never ever say – Humne to bol diya”
    Your reply reminds me of that specific dialogue.

    @Anita: What/Who the heck are you. Anyways, don’t know, dont care. I’ve encountered a lot of airheads in this very post, and dont care if there’s one more posting

  • Ahh. So zaleeluddin finally shows his shameless face esp when his dehati friend turns up. Oh wait, its just another fake individual. So hows life zaleeluddin, still getting *ss-k*cked by your fellas on facebook, or moved out of ncr courtesy some employer pitying on your state 😛 😛

    Things website admins do to save their faces. Ridiculous. But you guys could have spelt “article” correctly, must admit – real dehati’ism you guys’ve shown.

  • @sugandha @admin @tanay sukumar

    Just checked this post after like ages, and know what. Even after all this time, i find i was right, you guys are really really desperate for cheap publicity. Thats what this post is. And btw, just in case you do not know what happens on earth, just check the below link and the cheap disgusting filthy language used by Zaleeluddin, see how HIGH your editors have their standards, really commendably LOW (oh, poor guy, too bad his hommie’s dont know this ‘mughal’ name of his 😛 ).

    https://thechaddithings.wordpress.com/2011/12/11/proud-delhiites-or-are-we/

    Deleting the TS’s/admin’s comments, and all other comments that Zaleeluddin might find uncomfortable, and yet acting up as bravehearts claiming you havent deleted anything – have to admit, you need to be really shameless and UNPROFESSIONAL to act like that. Geez, and you think you’ll make a living out of this sham – rofl.

    ps: Your disclaimer looks like satire humor. Finally you guys have understood what satire means 😛

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